Ah I understand now.
So do you know what the modem is expecting from a CLIP perspective or is this 
what you are trying to find?
What is the interface from the modem to the Emergency Console? Can you build 
something that connects directly to the console?
It certainly seems like something that needs to be updated.

Regards
Michael Knill

From: Michael Keuter <li...@mksolutions.info>
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Date: Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 9:47 pm
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Am 20.04.2022 um 01:36 schrieb Michael Knill 
<michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>:

Hi Michael

I'm a little confused here. I was assuming this:
elevator -> PSTN -> SPA112 -> Asterisk

elevator -> PSTN -> Asterisk (via Voip to PSTN)) -> SPA112 -> Modem -> 
Emergency Support console (special construction modem with "handset")

Update: I could simulate the internal part with an 20 year old Siemens analogue 
DECT phone at the SPA112.
CallerID (CLIP) works fine after the first ring with "Bellcore (bell-202 or 
v.23)", "ETSI FSK (bell-202 or v.23)" and "ETSI FSK with PR (UK) (bell-202 + 
v.23)". Even the CallerID name is shown.

When I set to e.g. "DTMF Denmark" the phone shows only "External Call".


What am I missing?

Regards
Michael Knill

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Hi Michael,

the „potential“ customer has these modems for a long time, and there are no 
alternatives (like SIP) at the market.

And sure, in SIP I see the correct CallerID, but the modem don‘t see the 
„right“ CallerID generated by the ATA.

Sent from a mobile device.

Michael Keuter



Am 20.04.2022 um 00:58 schrieb Michael Knill 
<michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>:

Hi Michael

Just wondering why you need analogue modems to receive the calls from the 
elevators?
Have you done a SIP Debug of the traffic coming from the SPA112’s to see if the 
number is anywhere in the SIP Invite?
Do you know the particular standard for this in your country and is this 
supported by the SPA112’s?

I have never used analogue FXO for anything sorry.

Regards
Michael Knill

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Subject: [Astlinux-users] Analogue CLIP (CallerID)

Hi list,

I am trying to install an Asterisk PBX for an elevator emergency central in 
Germany.
The callees are 6 analogue modems who receive calls from the elevators.

The main issue is that the modems need to identify the elevator via a so called 
analogue CLIP (Calling Line Identification Presentation) where the calling 
number is shown to the receiving modem.
It is not the Asterisk CALLERID(num) but a special "message" which is 
transfered for analogue phones between the first 2 ringings (but I think this 
is generated from the CALLERID(num)).
There are several different methods for that, that can be set in the ATA (Cisco 
SPA112, latest EOL firmware):

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<image003.png><image004.png>

I tried every possible combination of "Caller ID Method" and "Caller ID FSK 
Standard", but without success.

Has anybody on the list made experiences with analogue CLIP?

Michael

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info


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