Philippe
Here are my initial comments.
1. Why is this XULRunner extension point still in ATF? This is something
that really should be in the platform. I think that we should get the
platform team involved. I understand that it is easier and faster to keep
it in the ATF family, but ATF doesn't own the embedded XULRunner browser
anymore.
2. Not having org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core dependent on
org.eclipse.core. The whole idea ATF core plugin was to provide base
classes that all the other plugins need. As ATF moves forward I can see
org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core becoming more dependent on ATF code
plugin. I think that two different goals are being intermixed in one
document.
a) A XULRunner plugin that is independent of ATF. I think that this
support should be in the platform.
b) Adoptors want to use org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core independent of
the rest of ATF. Why would anybody want to do this? We have had a number
of request to separate out functionality in ATF. People wanted the
embedded XULRunner browser support independent of the rest of ATF, so we
worked with the platform team to move it into SWT. A number of ATF
adopters requested that the HTTP server support be moved into WST, which
was done for WTP 2.0. We had request for a version of ATF that ran on WST
without JST, which was done in the latest milestone. There have even been
requests for a version of ATF that is didn't require WTP. Nobody has
requested to be able use eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core independent of the
rest of ATF. I can image that someone may want to use the Browser Tools
independent of the rest of ATF and WTP (org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core
and org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.ui). If that is the real requirement, then
we should document that requirement and we can have a separate discussion
on that topic.
I think that this discussion needs to be opened up to a larger audience
than just ATF dev list, since it efforts effects people outside of the ATF
community. While working with the large eclipse community, we may need to
come up with some interim solution.
Thanks
Bob
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All:
Please read that proposal and provide comment here in the list.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/ATF/Mozilla
I will be committing code in a branch for everyone to review.
Cordially
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Philippe
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