On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Peter Stuge <pe...@stuge.se> wrote:
> Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> > [302214.359875] ath: Failed to stop TX DMA in 100 msec after killing last 
>> > frame
>> > [302214.359900] ath: Unable to stop TxDMA. Reset HAL!
>>
>> What kernel?
>
> The one that I reported using in the disconnect thread. I'll repeat
> in this thread. Sorry that I forgot to mention it.
>
> Merge commit 'wireless-testing/master' as of 2010-01-14
>
> My last is:
>
> commit a30ce7f35fbb5643b1e67051b55fb874ed19936a
> Merge: e384cc6 7284ce6
> Author: John W. Linville <linvi...@tuxdriver.com>
> Date:   Wed Jan 13 11:23:51 2010 -0500
>
>    Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
>
> $ uname -r
> 2.6.33-rc4-wl
>
>
>> You should try to use the latest stable.
>
> Your constant suggestion that people should not use the very latest
> code absolutely baffles me. Or do you mean to say "this is a known
> regression" ?

There is a difference between latest and greatest and latest stable.
Bleeding edge is unstable by nature, but users of it are welcomed. If
a user wants stability they would surely be better off with a stable
release.

>> if you want to stick to an older kernel
>
> No, for f's sake, I want the very same commit that all the developers
> are working on, so that I have all recent fixes and so that the code
> that runs here is the same as the code they have loaded in their
> heads. I don't understand why it would be better to run older code!
>
>
> When posting on this mailing list my attitude is that this is a
> developer discussion group for the ath9k driver and that unreported
> issues will be met with enthousiasm, so that developers can get
> detailed input on unforeseen ways that the driver might fail in the
> field, so that the driver can be improved. Repeat until perfect.
>
> I find that it is always more effective when people who cooperate
> have a common ground - like using the same code. That is an ideal I
> strive for when I work. It seems to be common in most open source
> projects too, where a bug only in older code is not really worth
> spending much effort on, unless it also exists in the latest code.
>
> I am amazed that you continue to instruct people to use old kernels.

But I'm not. I assume the worst sometimes, that users are on ancient
crippled old kernels.

> Maybe it is important to point out that I am not the least bit
> interested in avoiding the symptoms that I am seeing. My only
> interest is that the problems which actually _cause_ the symptoms are
> understood and solved.
>
> During this process I am willing to accept some degree of performance
> loss as long as I have something that works well enough, and more
> importantly as long as I know that the problem is actually being
> considered by those who can suggest solutions.
>
> If noone cares enough about the problems then please communicate this,
> and I will gladly try to find other products.
>
> I'm also a competent engineer, so if there is technical information
> that I can use to debug the problems on my own then that is also very
> welcome.
>
> I don't think "run older code" is the answer.

Indeed, but bleeding edge is unstable by nature, so if a user wants
stability I recommend the stable kernels, if a user is up to deal with
a few hiccups here and there and report them to linux-wireless then
bleeding edge is better suited.

The fact that you are on bleeding edge actually does help for the
exact reasons you mentioned.

  Luis
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