Set the noack bit in the thx descriptor frame as well.

Adrian
On Mar 3, 2014 3:13 AM, "Olivier Marce" <olivier.ma...@alcatel-lucent.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> many thanks for these hints.
>
> When looking at the details needed to implement Delayed BA, I have
> concerns with the HW behavior.
> In the best of my understanding, HW manages the sent/received ACK as well
> as the frame retransmission.
> Then I wonder how the transmitter HW will behave when it will get a
> Delayed BA.
>
> Attached are some flow charts that depict my understanding of normal
> behavior (slide 1) and how a SW Delayed BA could behave (slide 2)
> In slide 2 I assume that :
> - Retry=0 at transmitted side
> - No Ack set at received side
> - Delayed BA is not handled by HW at transmitted side,  but I don't know
> how to make it possible.
>
> Best regards
>
>
> On 01/03/2014 02:59, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> Well, the point is that the receiver will know what was successfully
>> transmitted as it's tracking the sequence number space of the received
>> packets.
>>
>> So, you need
>>
>> * some way on the receiver to construct a bitmap from that to
>> determine what the current block-ack response should look like;
>> * add in the code to handle a block-ack request and respond with the
>> current block-ack window (in a manual BA, right? I forget.)
>> * announce you can do delayed-blockack;
>>
>> Then on the transmitter:
>>
>> * add in logic to transmit frames with no-ACK set;
>> * then add some way to know when to send the BA request - eg, once the
>> hardware has reported it's finished sending the frame (it won't have
>> an ACK, but it'll at least tell you that it's actually DMAed it out
>> and sent it out the air)
>> * .. then send the BA request
>> * And then add code to handle the BA response and update the transmit
>> side BA tracking (that's done right now by looking inside the TX
>> completion descriptor.)
>>
>>
>>
>> -a
>>
>>
>> On 28 February 2014 02:26, Olivier Marce
>> <olivier.ma...@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm looking for Delayed Block Ack support in ath9k.
>>>
>>> Is the situation different than on Nov 2012 ?
>>> https://lists.ath9k.org/pipermail/ath9k-devel/2012-November/009867.html
>>>
>>> I wonder how what have been suggested could work:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> * send aggregate frames, up to whatever your window size is;
>>>> * wait a  little bit;
>>>>
>>> waiting from when ? Once the frames passed to the HW to be transmitted ?
>>> But will not the HW transmit Immediate BA ? If disabled, how to get a
>>> status of received/not received frames ?
>>>
>>>   > * send a BA;
>>> BAR I guess
>>>
>>>   > * respond with a manually constructed BA frame with the current
>>>
>>>> state of the BA window.
>>>>
>>>
>>> See before : how to get the state of the BA window if the HW did not
>>> complete the transmission.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier Marcé
>>> Alcatel-Lucent Bell Labs France
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>>
>>
> --
> Olivier Marcé
> Alcatel-Lucent Bell Labs France
>
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