On 10/26/05, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Overly complicated.
> Easy to screw up.

XOXO provides a DTD and a Relax NG schema. What's so hard about that?

> I still haven't seen any demonstrated hard requirement for collection
> nesting.

That's because you refuse to acknowledge the problem. You have a list
of blogs per account, and sub collections related to each one.

> Potential naming conflicts with other proposed microformats
> (http://www.microformats.org/wiki/hatom).

There's no naming conflict. I'm just using XOXO as defined.

> Capabilities discovery is mentioned but never defined.
> It's unclear (to me at least) as to whether the contents of a wiki page
> (http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo) can be normatively referenced.

Another process objection. I asked you for technical feedback, not
bureaucratic feedback.

> >>the definition pub:control is underspecified;
> >
> For one, an element definition.  The current text ("The pub:control
> element is used to persist editing information and contains arbitrary
> markup") tells me nothing useful about how the element is defined,

What do you want to know? I've never seen a definition for the
element, so I'm not sure how I could have underspecified it.

> what
> it contains, what it is used for and how the information within it
> should be handled or even where the heck the thing is supposed to go.

It's obviously a child of atom:entry. Where else would it go?

> Why does it exist? Why use it? What's the difference between "editing
> information" and entry metadata?

Beats me. I'm just responding to feedback from the WG. What's the
"real" pub:control for?

> Status codes are fine, but how is other error information provided (e.g.
> a human readable description of the specific failure that occurred)?

In the message body. See RFC 2616.

> Does a 5xx response really mean that the request has failed or could it
> mean that the status of the request is unknown?

Failed. See RFC 2616.

> Should there be any
> discussion about failure recovery?

RFC 2616 provides the normative direction here. Or do you think we get
to reinvent it?

> >>and member listing is underspecified.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >How's that? I was waiting for mnot to sort out the link relations. The
> >sync stuff, whether by date or count,  in the WG draft is hopelessly
> >naive.
> >
> >
> Exactly how the URI construction should play out is still a subject that
> I'm undecided on.  Either way, your spec says does not say anything
> useful about *how* partial listings are requested or processed by the
> client.

No, it says you get a partial listing of the server's choosing when
you send a GET.

Robert Sayre

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