On 10/28/05, Thomas Broyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Luke Arno  wrote:
> >
> > On 10/27/05, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Your proposal says,
> >>
> >>        The title of an APP collection will be the title of the
> >>        XHTML anchor or link with rel='entry' or 'generic' pointing
> >>        to the collection's primary feed.
> >>        If these are not present then it will be the text of the
> >>        anchor (if it is an anchor).
> >>        If these are not present then the contents of the
> >>        element within the collection (but not within a nested
> >>        collection) with a class name of collectionTitle
> >>        will be considered the name of the collection.
> >>        If none of these exist, it is highest ranking heading element
> >>        within the collection container.
> >>        If none of these exist, it is simply an unnamed collection.
> >>
> >> Does that mean that if the contents the anchor (or collectionTitle, etc)
> >> contains additional markup (e.g br tags) that markup is part of the
> >> title of the collection?
> >>
> >
> > "Contents" means what you would get from an xsl:value-of:
> > concatenation of text node descendants.
>
> How about an xhtml:img? As an XHTML writer, I'd expect the title attribute
> to be used, or if not present, the alt attribute.
> Or maybe, as Eric pointed it out, use the title attribute as a short
> description and the alt as the title of the collection?
>

That is an interesting thought. I think I have to make
the profile itself a little less flexible so that
parsers/writers have less to consider, though.

> I'm sorry but I can't buy your argument about XHTML "parseability".
>

What makes you think it is so hard?

Like I said, the profile probably *does* offer too
many options at this point. This is not a limitation
of microformats however, but my crappy profile.

Further iterations will be much better.

> And I'm still not convinced an introspection document has to be
> displayable in a browser…
> TypePad/Blogger/etc. will probably tell you "point your AtomPP client to
> http://…";
>

Of course it does not *have* to be.

I just want to see us weigh out the specific pros and
cons and decide when we are informed. It looks great
from where I am sitting now, but I am open to specific
costs that I may have overlooked.

That said, I believe Mark Pilgram, Brian Suda, Bud
Gibson, and Tantek Celik that parsing is no big. I will
be a very surprised if that is a real issue. We should
definitely have a sample parser before putting it in
the spec, though. That is just the responsible thing
to do.

- Luke

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