On 11/4/05, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:54 PM, James M Snell wrote: > > > Over the past couple of weeks we've been kicking around the -06 > > draft and have seen a significant amount of spirited discussion and > > new Paces. As I've been following the discussions, I've had a > > recurring and nagging feeling that we this stuff could stand a > > drastic and radical simplification. Unfortunately, it's not > > particularly easy to describe what I have in mind in a series of > > individual paces so I've decided to draft up my ideas as a single > > chunk included below. > > Thanks, and I hope this effort proves useful. > > However, I suggest we really don't know where consensus lies. In > recent weeks, we've had a substantial number of Paces posted, quite a > few of them plausible, and a mind-boggling amount of discussion about > them. The first step is for your luckless co-chairs to go through > that discussion and see if there are any obvious consensus calls that > can be made without even formally scheduling stuff. >
True, consensus is not screaming out loud yet. None the less, we seem to have made a real leap with atom:id. Working out these basic building blocks means that we have new common ground. It also means that we need to rethink some things. For this reason I hope that we stay open to the sort of radical simplification that James' work here attempts. Casting off baggage is a big theme in recent paces; "remove this and we don't need that". I think the sort of "premise convergence" (I made that up) we are seeing is the reason for the housecleaning. In the same vein, I have been doing some creative thinking of my own today. I guess it was yesterday by this hour :-) http://lukearno.com/projects/atom-pub/app-model.html Opinions anyone? > Now, it's perfectly OK to make proposals on re-organizing the draft > to improve it. But at this point it seems out of line to abandon our > process, which is showing signs of bearing fruit. > Agreed. I hope we get some of the paces in soon because it gets muddy with too many on the table. *wink - Luke
