Tim Bray wrote:
Would it be an oversimplification to say that this provides by value what atom:origin provides by reference? -Tim
On 16 Nov 2004, at 18:57, Bob Wyman wrote:
Henry Story wrote:I don't see that. "atom:origin2" is your invention, not Tim's. Timyou are not replying to Tim's point. You are saying so and so is the case with atom:origin as it is currently. Tim was asking if what you were proposing was not something like atom:origin2.
referred to "what atom:origin provides by reference." I was pointing out
that atom:origin provides nothing "by reference" in that it doesn't pass
anything which can be de-referenced.
You are being very finicky here, and mistakenly so too. Atom origin points to a *URI*. That it can not necessarily be dereferenced mechanically is not a criterion for saying that it does not refer to the head by reference.
Thus, you "Can't get there from here"
using atom:origin as defined -- if where you're trying to get is the feed
that was the "origin" for the entry.
If atom:origin had been defined as an URL, I would have agreed that
"PaceHeadInEntry provides by value what atom:origin provides by reference."
But, atom:origin isn't a re-referenceable URL so the answer to Tim's
question is "No. It ain't so!"
Ok. So if I tell you to read the book with ISBN URI say urn:ISBN:0-198-24686-2
which is a really good book by Gareth Evans called "The Varieties of Reference"
you are going to tell me that I did not pass you the book by reference?
I don't see how you can argue that position, frankly.
bob wyman
