On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Story Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Linde,
>
> There is some work on GRDDLing atom. One of them is here
>
>  https://sommer.dev.java.net/atom/
>
> David Powell is working on an XSLT1 transform for another ontology.

Thanks Henry. I'll have to take a closer look at that, as well as I'm
searching for an example of an atom:category scheme.

>
> The atom group as a whole tends not to be very interested in these
> discussions, as they open up a painful history of years of debate that
> started with very early versions of RSS, and a good deal of confusion and
> misunderstanding all over.
>
> RDF is very powerful. So it is better to spend time working on solutions
> that reveal that aspect of things. All the rest is GRDDLable.

Yes, I can sympathize with the historic reasons. However I think maybe
one has to limit the scope of Atom somewhere, and atom:category(ies)
just intuitively seems as a not so good idea to me.

- Erling

>
>        Henry
>
>
> On 17 Jun 2008, at 08:10, Sylvain Hellegouarch wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean by standardizing RDF with Atom. If
>> someone is interested in using RDF inside Atom can't they just do so
>> already? Or do you mean mapping the Atom model to the RDF data model?
>>
>> Looking at the GRRDL Primer specification it looks like it's a
>> transformation mechanism of a source document to a RDF representation. Is
>> there any showstopper from the RDF community to already create such
>> specification for consuming Atom documents?
>>
>> More fundamentally my *personal* issue here is that RDF has chosen a
>> top-down approach by saying "We needed a mechanism to enable meaningful
>> consuming of heterogeneous resources" so they defined RDF and gradually
>> offered simpler mechanisms to allow the profane to join the RDF world (like
>> GRRDL Primer). Atom on the other hand has followed a bottom-up path and
>>  been about "Let's have the lowest entry barrier we can and gradually add
>> more complex mechanisms if they are needed". But because the base format is
>> well defined you can make an Atom document already meaningful on its own.
>
>



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Erling Wegger Linde

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