On 2/2/05 5:49 PM, "Tim Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Having produced my own Atom feed has made me a supporter of this Pace;
> without getting too deep into it <link rel="self" feels quite sensible,
> while <link rel="icon" feels stupid.

+1

> However, this Pace needed work; first of all, it was based on link
> constructs, which no longer exist.  So I revised it.

I based it on Link Constructs because I was (a) trying to avoid spec bloat,
and (b) being lazy.

The Link Construct did provide for more than just a URI though -- there's
@type, a title attribute (which could be used for the @alt), and (pushing
it) @hreflang for those atom:image with text rendered. I'm happy to lose
@hreflang, a user agent could use /feed/head/tagline instead of @title, and
@type really isn't necessary because the set of image formats is pretty
stable.

So, +1.

(with minor revisions ... change the section numbers to suit -05, and added
cardinality to section "4.2 the atom:head element", otherwise the spec
wouldn't say just where those elements could be used)


> Second, along with turning Icon and Image from <link> into their own
> elements, it changed the cardinality, allowing more than one
> <atom:image> in <atom:head>.  I think this is probably a bad idea, but
> I'm 100% sure that it's wrong to mix up this with the (entirely
> separate) debate on whether to use <image> instead of <link>.   So, I
> ripped it out of PaceIconAndImage and created a new PaceMultipleImages
> to suggest this.

+1. I wish more paces were decoupled. (makes note to self)

> Third, along with these other changes, the Pace changed the
> <atom:image> aspect ratio from 2:1 to 1:1.

That must have been a copy/pasto. I know I set the atom:icon aspect ratio to
1:1, and thought I kept the 2:1 aspect ratio for atom:image.

> Once again, this may be a
> good idea, but it needs discussion.  But I kind of think this may have
> been a cut&paste typo, so I ripped it out but didn't create a new Pace,
> if someone really wants to change the Aspect ratio they should create a
> Pace.

Yep, copy/pasto ... no, wait ... it actually said:

>> === 4.2.y atom:image Element ===
>>
>>  �The "atom:icon" element�is�a Link construct that conveys a URI to an
>>  �image resource which provides visual identification for a feed. The
>>  �image SHOULD have an aspect ratio of 2 (horizontal) to 1 (vertical).

2:1, but I did have a copy/pasto brainfart with the name of the element in
the prose of the section.

> Having said all that, I'm +1 on PaceIconAndImage.

+1

> I'm -1 on PaceMultipleImages, this is an  experimental feature, Atom,
> doesn't need those, YAGNI.

fair enough - there's been enough flack over multiple content.

e.


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