Hmm, I've been a little distracted, but I thought
PaceExtensionConstruct did get a reasonable amount of support.
+1 from me anyway.



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:12:48 -0800, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Methodology: Paul & I went through *all* the WG emails that directly
> commented on the currently open issues (see
> http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/AtomPubIssuesList); in most cases
> the calls were pretty clear.  As always, we may have mis-read the
> group, feel free to say so if you think so.
> 
> The intent is that this email serve as guidance for the editors in
> preparing the format draft that we send out for IETF last call.  We do
> not expect further material discussion of format-related Paces, it's
> now over to the whole IETF.  On the other hand, discussion of editorial
> changes is always fair game, please keep reporting what you find to the
> list, and we wouldn't be surprised if the editors turned up some corner
> cases too.
> 
> PaceAggregationDocument & PaceAggregationDocument2
> One -1, nobody unambiguously in favor.
> DISPOSITION: Close them.
> 
> PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec
> Only a couple of voices in favor, some support conditional on profiles.
> DISPOSITION: Close it, but given that the other aggregation-related
> Paces seem to be failing, it seems like a separate spec is the only
> place that this kind of work gets done.
> 
> PaceArchiveDocument
> A howling mob of sharp pointy -1's.
> DISPOSITION: Close it.
> 
> PaceClarifyDateUpdated
> A couple of -1's, one fuzzy +1.
> DISPOSITION: Close it.
> 
> PaceCollection
> One pro, one contra, not much discussion.
> DISPOSITION: Not enough support, close it.
> 
> PaceCommentFeeds
> Two contra, one pro, some suggestion that we really need
> link/@rel="comment".
> DISPOSITION: Not enough support, close it.
> 
> PaceDatesXSD
> Everyone seems to like it, enough people want the regex that it's
> accepted too.
> DISPOSITION: Accepted, Sayre suggested good wording calling in all the
> specs that are covered.
> 
> PaceEntriesElement
> Drowning in -1's.
> DISPOSITION: Close it.
> 
> PaceEntryOrder
> One -1, but overwhelming support otherwise.
> DISPOSITION: Accepted.
> 
> PaceExtensionConstruct
> One -1, 1.5 +1's.
> DISPOSITION: Not enough support, close it.
> 
> PaceFeedRecursive
> Lots of -1's.
> DISPOSITION: Close it.
> 
> PaceFeedState
> Lots of -1's.
> DISPOSITION: Close it.
> 
> PaceNoFeedState
> A few +1's, nothing negative.
> DISPOSITION: Accepted.
> 
> PaceFormatSecurity
> Evenly split +1's and -1's.
> DISPOSITION: No consensus and we have PaceSecuritySection, close it.
> 
> PaceHeadless
> Lots of talk, more -1's than +1's.
> DISPOSITION: No consensus, close it.
> 
> PaceIconAndImage
> One -1, but broad support otherwise.
> DISPOSITION: Accepted.
> 
> PaceLangSpecific
> Not a lot of discussion, but pretty positive.
> DISPOSITION: Borderline, but accepted.
> 
> PaceLinkEnclosure
> A little bit of support, but with reservations.
> DISPOSITION: A messy Pace and not enough support, close it.
> 
> PaceLinkRelVia
> Moderate support, no objections.
> DISPOSITION: Borderline, but accepted.
> 
> PaceMultipleImages
> Lots of -1's.
> DISPOSITION: Close it.
> 
> PaceMustBeWellFormed
> Very little discussion, no unambiguous support.
> DISPOSITION: Our longest-lived Pace is finally closed.
> 
> PaceOrderSpecAlphabetically
> A bit of support, not much talk.
> DISPOSITION: This is editorial, let the editors run with it.
> 
> PaceProfile
> Changed along the way, quite a few +1's but even more -1's.  A certain
> amount of "+1 on concept, -1 on syntax" which doesn't help.
> DISPOSITION: No consensus, close it.
> 
> PaceProfileAttribute
> No significant support.
> DISPOSITION: Close it
> 
> PaceRemoveInfoAndHost
> Not much discussion, but no opposition.
> DISPOSITION: Borderline, but accepted.
> 
> PaceRemoveVersionAttribute
> Quite a bit of support, quite a bit of grumbling but no loud -1's.
> DISPOSITION: Borderline, but accepted.
> 
> PaceRepeatIdInDocument
> Lots of discussion, more -1's than +1's.
> DISPOSITION: No consensus, close it.  But now we have a problem, in
> that this removed ambiguity in one direction, just closing it leaves
> the ambiguity.  So the only logical conclusion is that the WG is
> directing the editors to put language in that explicitly forbids
> entries with duplicate <atom:id> in an <atom:feed>.
> 
> PaceSecuritySection
> More support than opposition, but some feeling that the IETF is going
> to make us do something like this anyhow.
> DISPOSITION: Borderline, but accepted.
> 
> PaceTextRules
> Only one (positive) comment.
> DISPOSITION: Not enough support, close it.
> 
> PaceXhtmlNamespaceDiv
> This is tough.  There are some people who are really against this and
> who aren't moving.  On the other hand, there are way more who are in
> favor.  Reviewing the discussion, the contras are saying that this is
> sloppy and unnecessary and if it solves a problem, that problem really
> shouldn't be there, but they don't seem to be saying it's actively
> harmful.  But the people in favor are arguing that this will reduce
> errors and improve interop.  Also, the Pace was changed in midstream.
> Also, Paul thinks we will get feedback on this from out there in the
> IETF.
> DISPOSITION: Borderline, but accepted.
> 
> ===================================
> 
> None-Pace discussion items:
> 
> Remove Protocol stuff? See
> http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg13431.html
> Several +1's, some grumbling.
> DISPOSITION: Let's do it; Paul thinks we'll get IETF feedback on this.
> 
> s/tagline/subtitle/ had unanimous support, says Parks:
> http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg13452.html, and no
> push-back
> DISPOSITION: Do it.
> 
> 


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