Sunday, May 22, 2005, 2:08:57 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

>>>> change from a unicode combined char to single + combining
>>>> diacritic,
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>>> change in paragraph 27 of an article that doesn't show up in a
>>>> summaries-only feed,
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Dave: In my case, and seemingly in the case of most of the tools
>> surveyed, both of those would get a "yes".

> Existence proof, if any were needed, that the notion that there is  
> such a thing as an "objective change" is just silly.  Anybody who has
> worked with the deployment of more than two professional publishing
> systems knows full well that there is very little agreement on what
> constitutes a change.  Attempting to specify a protocol element to  
> capture a mythological quantity strikes me as bad design. -Tim

Did you get my response to Rogers' mail? I said that atom:modified
"does not need" to be updated in these cases. However, if a publishing
client has made the effort to post the changes to a server, and a
server has made an effort to commit these changes to the database,
then as with the case of a publisher committing a null change, it is
not expected that the implementation makes a judgement call over
whether there was really an update. atom:modified is much simpler than
that.

PaceDateModified2 deliberately doesn't prohibit this, nor does this
prevent the proposal from fulfilling its goal to provide a temporal
ordering for entry instances.

-- 
Dave

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