On Wednesday 12 May 2010 10:13:12 Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I'm usually only installing Adobe, Google and RPMFusion repositories > on a fresh Fedora install. I'm just missing Cinelerra package that is > only available in atrpms repo. > > Why are you using atrpms repo? What are the packages that you can't do > without that are only available in atrpms repo? > > Cheers from Croatia, > Valent.
I was helping someone some time back with a 3d graphics problem. He couldn't get glxgears to run. He happened to be on the #fedora channel seeking help, and at the time, none of the fedora 'gurus' in the channel had a clue as to what the problem was. The standard mantra was, 'it's the evil proprietary Nvidia drivers, they are at fault'. I was rather taken aback at this, since I had three machines running at the time with the evil proprietary Nvidia drivers, and was experiencing absolutely no problems. The difference in my case was, the packages were from Axel Thimm. I suggested atrpms.net on the #fedora channel, in the open spirit that whatever solution worked would be welcomed there. That was not the case. Any repos not pushed by Fedora PTB, or other than the Fusion repos, or whichever of those come first, are discouraged and considered to be just as evil as the evil proprietary Nvidia drivers. I believe the exact words regarding atrpms were, "Don't use that shit." Which of course then made me hell bent to do exactly that. I pulled the person aside to another channel and started helping them with their problem. Within about an hour, he had all 3d opengl graphics working on his system courtesy of Axel Thimm. Before I could stop him, he went back to the fedora channel and reported that his system was fully functional. Thinking of course, in the kind generous spirit that his experience would be able to help other people in the #fedora channel. He was told in no uncertain terms to uninstall the atrpms packages. The user was astonished at the behavior of these 'gurus'; his response was, "But it's WORKING!" He of course kept atrpms as his repo of choice. Think this is an isolated incident? It is not. I recently did the exact same thing with another user trying to get fusion ATI nonfree rpms working on his system and he too was having the same 3d problem as the nvidia user was having. Again, on the #fedora channel it was the evil proprietary ATI drivers that were at fault and all his woes would be cured with the free radeon driver. Again, I pulled this user aside and again fixed his system, but this time I did it with the downloaded package installer from ATI/AMD. I've got some theories regarding all this, and some of it has to do with gpl religious nut jobs, but I wont go into that. The point is that I have been using atrpms.net for several years now, and in that time I see the track record of the fedora repos and I see the track record of atrpms. The comparison is stark. Bottom line, I trust Axel Thimm over the sacred 'rpmfusion' repos of the theocracy any day of the week. --LX _______________________________________________ atrpms-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.atrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/atrpms-users
