Hi Matt!

On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 9:59:39 AM UTC+3, Matt Chelen wrote:
>
> I'd definitely be interested in such a project, but I don't know that I 
> have the requisite knowledge to actually be of any help. I could certainly 
> try (I've always been a "learn as you go" sort of person), but I feel fair 
> warning that I may not be able to do much is in order.
>
>
Well it seems to me that this project is actually not as difficult as I 
thought!

I managed to compile some test programs and they run natively on Windows:


Now, the setup is of course quite difficult. Here's what I did:


   1. install MSYS2 and setup a development environment 
   <https://github.com/orlp/dev-on-windows/wiki/Installing-GCC--&-MSYS2>
   2. compile 
   <https://gist.github.com/ashalkhakov/4d9cc1a5fff9f9171f00a9ba50a24ebd>both 
   ATS1 and ATS2 from sources under MSYS2
   3. in MSYS2 shell, install via pacman the mingw-w64-x86_64-toolchain 
   <https://www.davidegrayson.com/windev/msys2/> (just hit ENTER to install 
   all tools) -- of course I assume you run an x86_64 system
   4. try to compile a very simple program, but now with this toolchain.. 
   how?

Basically the idea is that, to build a windows native app, you open the 
"MSYS2 MinGW 64-bit" shell (it's added to your Start Menu so it's easy to 
find).

To build an MSYS2 (aka non-native) app, you open the "MSYS2" shell. and 
then after opening the shell you just run "./configure&&make&&make install" 
as usual.

So, taking the example of arrinit.dats in $PATSHOME/doc/EXAMPLE/TESTATS, 
let us see what we can do.

The generated C file contains the prelude block (which just 
indiscriminately #includes all sorts of headers). We could also make our 
own user prelude tailored to Windows, I think.

Some notes:

   - the extensive symbolic linking that is used in ATS2 source repo is 
   horribly broken in MSYS2 (see the note in my gist; basically, instead of 
   symlinking, just copy the files over to their targets...)
      - oh, and I used git from MSYS2 to clone the ATS2/ATS2-contrib repos 
      when following my own script, maybe that is why the symlinks got broken.
      - the whole ATS2 toolchain still works in MSYS2, which is a kind of 
   Cygwin (meaning that all the binaries depend on msys dll) -- and we need a 
   better solution for general building... or perhaps, just leave it at that
   - I created a branch <https://www.davidegrayson.com/windev/msys2/> that 
   contains some fixes to ATS2 prelude to make this compilation possible -- 
   the upside is that fixing is VERY minimal! it will get worse as we come to 
   various system-provides functions, but shouldn't be too bad, I think.
   
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 2:33 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 2:46:06 PM UTC+3, Matt Chelen wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I had intended on creating some graphical apps. Or, at the very 
>>> least, I like that option to be open to me. I'd also like to be able to 
>>> stay on Windows, ideally, as that's where the rest of my development 
>>> environment is at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>> Matt, I'm sorry about that. The current Windows support is only through 
>> Cygwin. The C generated by patsopt is very minimal though, so it should be 
>> possible to provide at least a prelude so as to make the code portable to 
>> MinGW64. Last time I tried this I had some issues with the (a) 
>> setjmp/longjmp (used for exception handling), (b) some file I/O primitives 
>> in [filebas], (c) forking in patscc (since I was a bit too ambitious I 
>> wanted to port the whole compiler, not just the compiled programs -- now, 
>> patscc can be re-implemented instead in a bash script that would run under 
>> MSYS2 shell).
>>
>> One other thing that might be problematic in such a port is that of build 
>> system: ATS1 and ATS2 by default use the "make" utility, so of course we'd 
>> need MSYS2 at the very least to make the build process portable (or we'd 
>> have to support some other alternative build system, such as SCons, -- it 
>> has been tried, it works, but it hasn't gained traction).
>>
>> Please ping me if you're interested. Maybe we can work something out 
>> (especially that ATS3 is in the works, and we'll of course carry over the 
>> experience gained in this project).
>>  
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:33 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> вт, 2 апр. 2019 г. в 14:27, Matt Chelen <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> Alright, to test it out, I tried building Lazy Foo's fourth SDL 
>>>>> tutorial. It does not work, though that may be in part due to the fact 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> Cygwin applications apparently expect that an X11 server will be 
>>>>> available. 
>>>>> So I tested it in MSYS2's MinGW64 shell with the same compilation flags 
>>>>> (adjusted for differences in library locations); it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Interesting.
>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, I've discovered that, according to the SDL installation 
>>>>> page ( https://wiki.libsdl.org/Installation ), Cygwin is no longer 
>>>>> supported. Even if it did work, the reliance on an X11 server is fairly 
>>>>> frustrating. Disappointing results overall. I'll have to see how I want 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> proceed. Ultimately, it would be nice if it compiled in MSYS2's MinGW64 
>>>>> shell, but alas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, under Cygwin the programs would have to rely in X11 anyways. I 
>>>> used such apps in the past, they are slow but they work (e.g. Emacs works).
>>>>
>>>> Compiling ATS2 programs in MinGW64 should be doable, but there are some 
>>>> parts of the prelude that depend on POSIX interfaces (the compiler itself 
>>>> could be just as useful as Cygwinized application; at least in the short 
>>>> term). Do you intend to do some graphics apps using ATS? I'd suggest 
>>>> switching to Linux or MacOS for now, if you can.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:00 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> вт, 2 апр. 2019 г. в 13:08, Matt Chelen <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SDL2 does work in Cygwin. It even has its own environment-specific 
>>>>>>> SDL DLL. Additionally, I tried running it outside of Cygwin, using the 
>>>>>>> required DLLs, and it failed on startup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I added the -I flag to test02 in the makefile and it is also 
>>>>>>> erroring on the first use of assertloc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, test00 returns the SDL version as expected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to GitHub, the SDL2 wrapper hasn't been updated in five 
>>>>>>> years. Is it possible that it (or the examples) just doesn't work 
>>>>>>> properly 
>>>>>>> anymore?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it compiles to C. So I guess that if you can run a toy C 
>>>>>> program that initializes SDL2 video subsystem properly on Windows with 
>>>>>> Cygwin, then the corresponding ATS program should work just the same. 
>>>>>> Could 
>>>>>> you try that as well?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Simply to test if there was something weird going on with assertloc, 
>>>>>>> I tested this example ( 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats/blob/6539444fe641f7fa493140bd9940e5acf00960e3/doc/EXAMPLE/INTRO/f91.dats
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> ) and it works fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I set SDL_GetError() to a variable, it goes past it and errors at 
>>>>>>> the first assertloc. If I try to print it directly, it won't let me; 
>>>>>>> compilation fails. SDL_Log is unrecognized. I've yet to go through any 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> the ATS tutorial material (I was just trying to get all of this set up 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> working), so I'm unsure how to proceed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:08 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> вт, 2 апр. 2019 г. в 12:02, Matt Chelen <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $ pkg-config sdl2 --cflags
>>>>>>>>>> -I/usr/include/SDL2 -D_REENTRANT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As a side-note, I passed the $PATSCONTRIB -I flag to the make 
>>>>>>>>> command and it built test00 and test01, but test02 failed and test01 
>>>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>>>> not run, instead throwing an error on the first use of assertloc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/ats2-postiats-0.3.13/contrib/SDL2/test/test01.dats: 
>>>>>>>>>> 311(line=25, offs=18) -- 331(line=25, offs=38)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You use Windows and Cygwin, right? I'm wondering if SDL2 even works 
>>>>>>>> in this setting? The assertion has to do with SDL_Init returning an 
>>>>>>>> error 
>>>>>>>> code. Could you add a call to SDL_GetError() somewhere in there? As 
>>>>>>>> shown 
>>>>>>>> here, basically:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_Init
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> test02 throws the same error as I had originally due to having 
>>>>>>>>> different cflags, so I think I am going to have to edit the makefile 
>>>>>>>>> to get 
>>>>>>>>> it to recognize the added -I flag.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:57 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Indeed it's quite puzzling to me as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> вт, 2 апр. 2019 г. в 11:33, Matt Chelen <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Manually including the contrib folder with a -I flag seems to 
>>>>>>>>>>> have worked (other than the SDL_GetVersion function causing an 
>>>>>>>>>>> undefined 
>>>>>>>>>>> reference error), but I'm still confused as to why it didn't just 
>>>>>>>>>>> work. The 
>>>>>>>>>>> documentation basically states that the way I had it set up is a 
>>>>>>>>>>> valid way 
>>>>>>>>>>> to set up the contrib folder, whereas having to manually include 
>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>> contrib folder says the opposite.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could you tell me what the following command evaluates to in your 
>>>>>>>>>> terminal:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ pkg-config sdl2 --cflags 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I picked it up from here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-contrib/blob/master/contrib/SDL2/TEST/Makefile
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Notice that in this makefile, CFLAGS are added to the C compiler 
>>>>>>>>>> so that it can find SDL2. Maybe the makefile should also add an 
>>>>>>>>>> -I<directory of contrib/>. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:23 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 2 апр. 2019 г. в 11:19, Matt Chelen <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just realized now that the file referenced in the comment is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SATS file and that I had misread it, but it should hold that, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the SATS file, which is simply in a different subdirectory 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contrib/SDL2, it should be able to find the CATS file, unless I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am mistaken 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about how this is supposed to be set up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, the #includes in .cats files are resolved by the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> underlying C compiler, hence I think the issue is somehow in the C 
>>>>>>>>>>>> compiler 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (maybe it needs another -I flag or some such?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:13 AM Matt Chelen <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My contrib folder is in $PATSHOME/contrib. I've tried setting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both the $PATSCONTRIB environment variable to both $PATSHOME, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the documentation said to do (it is entirely possible that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstood 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the phrasing), and $PATSHOME/contrib, both with the same result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The SDL2 folder is in the contrib folder. It's just cloned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the GitHub repo and copied in there. The examples that I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build are in $PATSHOME/contrib/SDL2/TEST and the actual bindings 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $PATSHOME/contrib/SDL2/CATS/SDL.cats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the relevant part of the generated C file, showing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it has the correct path to the file in question in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/ats2-postiats-0.3.13/contrib/SDL2/SATS/SDL.sats: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 899(line=29, offs=1) -- 941(line=33, offs=3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #include "SDL2/CATS/SDL.cats"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What it looks like (to me) is that it's just not resolving 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly. None of the prelude ATS files that are included before 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that point 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are throwing errors. Just that one. Manually changing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "contrib/SDL2/CATS/SDL.cats" allows patscc to get past the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error, but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then run into similar errors with the files that it includes. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure why it's not resolving properly. Adding contrib to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to get it to resolve even if I set $PATSCONTRIB to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $PATSHOME/contrib.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think it might work properly if I move $PATSCONTRIB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere else or is something else going on?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 3:07:05 AM UTC-4, Artyom 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shalkhakov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 6:53:00 PM UTC+3, Matt Chelen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get ATS-Contrib set up and I'm concerned that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't currently have it configured correctly. As per the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put the "contrib" folder in $PATSHOME and set $PATSCONTRIB to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $PATSHOME.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is that I tried compiling the SDL sample programs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and, while the ATS compiler compiles them just fine, I get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors like the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following from the resulting C source.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/ats2-postiats-0.3.13"/bin/patscc -I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/ats2-postiats-0.3.13" -I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/ats2-postiats-0.3.13"/ccomp/runtime  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -D_GNU_SOURCE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -I/usr/include/SDL2 -D_REENTRANT  -o test00 test00.dats -L
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/ats2-postiats-0.3.13"/ccomp/atslib/lib 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -latslib 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -lSDL2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test00_dats.c:82:10: fatal error: SDL2/CATS/SDL.cats: No 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  #include "SDL2/CATS/SDL.cats"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compilation terminated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make: *** [Makefile:41: test00] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same thing happens if I set $PATSCONTRIB to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $PATSHOME/contrib. Did I set something up incorrectly? Is this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the library? Is this a Cygwin issue?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you check what is in those -I directories? In 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular, where are the SDL2/CATS/SDL.cats files located, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your $PATSCONTRIB, does it have an SDL2 subdirectory?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Artyom Shalkhakov
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>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>>>> Artyom Shalkhakov
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>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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