Martin, hello there That's the main point here, they want us to sign an agreement so they can change the license used at that time (gpl2+) to anything they want, including any open or closed-source licenses.
Em qua, 2 de jun de 2021 06:00, Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> escreveu: > Our work is released under the license as Audacity at the time of our > contributions. > Muse must comply with that. > They just need to change this sentence. > No problem. > > Lp, m. > > V V sre., 2. jun. 2021 ob 10:44 je oseba Joachim Huffer < > [email protected]> napisala: > >> Well, as I understand it, if I sign this CLA, I basically give Muse the >> right to do whatever it wants with my translation: >> >> >> - You grant MUSECY SM LTD, an affiliate of MuseScore and Ultimate >> Guitar, (“Company”) the ability to use the Contributions in any way. You >> hereby grant to Company , a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, fully >> paid-up, royalty free, irrevocable copyright license to reproduce, prepare >> derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and >> distribute your Contribution and such derivative works. >> >> >> So basically they could choose to start work on a proprietary closed >> source version of Audacity and use the submitted translations there for >> free. >> >> Joachim >> >> Am Mi., 2. Juni 2021 um 10:22 Uhr schrieb Thomas De Rocker < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Is it really that big of a deal? The way I understand, it's only to >>> prevent any legal issues in the future, no? >>> >>> *[...] This license is not only for the **protection of the >>> contributors** themselves, but also for the **protection of the project >>> and its users**; it does **not change your rights to use your own >>> Contributions for any other purpose** [...]* >>> >>> *The license agreement is a legal document in which you state you are >>> entitled to contribute the code to Audacity and are willing to have it used >>> in distributions and derivative works. This means that should there be any >>> kind of legal issue in the future as to the origins and ownership of any >>> particular piece of code, Audacity has the necessary forms on file from the >>> contributor(s) saying they were permitted to make this contribution.* >>> >>> *The CLA also ensures that once you have provided a contribution, you >>> **cannot >>> try to withdraw permission for its use at a later date**. People and >>> companies can therefore use Audacity, confident that they will not be asked >>> to **stop using pieces of the code at a later date**.* >>> >>> *Being able to make a clear statement about the origins of the code is >>> very important as Audacity is adopted by large organizations who are >>> necessarily cautious about adopting products with unknown origins. We wish >>> for Audacity to be used and distributed as widely as possible and in order >>> to do this with confidence, we need to be sure about the origins and >>> continuing existence of the code.* >>> >>> *Can I withdraw permission to use my contributions at a later date?* >>> >>> *No. This is one of the reasons Audacity requires a CLA. No **individual >>> contributor can hold such a threat **over the entire community of >>> users. Once you make a contribution, you are saying MUSECY SM LTD (an >>> affiliate of MuseScore and Ultimate Guitar) can use that piece of code >>> forever.* >>> >>> Full version here: https://www.audacityteam.org/cla/ >>> >>> >>> Please don't make any rash decisions... Forking the project and thereby >>> splitting the Audacity community could have bad consequences (I'm thinking >>> about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice). >>> Please... try to *communicate* first, asking *why* decisions are made, >>> to prevent jumping to conclusions. >>> >>> I sincerely hope we can continue to put our energy and time in the *same >>> project*. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *Van:* Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> >>> *Verzonden:* woensdag 2 juni 2021 9:00 >>> *Aan:* [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Audacity-translation] CONTRIBUTOR LICENSE AGREEMENT - >>> time to fork? >>> >>> Helo, >>> >>> I totally agree with you. Let's fork. >>> >>> Lp, m. >>> >>> V V sre., 2. jun. 2021 ob 08:10 je oseba Cleber Tavano < >>> [email protected]> napisala: >>> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> Again, I learned from the press that Audacity is changing everything in >>> licensing and "forgot" to let us know why or what they're doing. >>> Now we're asked to give in all our contributions under a murky and >>> uncertainly-worded license agreement that will grant Muse the right to do >>> whatever they want for good. >>> >>> I contribute to this software since the very beginning and I'm proud >>> that Audacity is such an important tool used in schools around my country >>> and that my translations made it happen. >>> But I'm NOT an employee of Muse and I'll never be. I refuse to sign a >>> CLA giving to these guys completely and perpetual rights over my work, >>> including even taking my contributions and change how it's licensed. >>> I had agreed to work under the gpl license, not to give in my rights for >>> an "agreement" that can't even be clear about how it will be used. >>> If I wanted to get my work used in a proprietary software, I wouldn't >>> commit it in a GPLed project. >>> >>> Unless you people at Muse come with something completely different from >>> the terms of the proposed agreement, I'll kindly ask you to retreat my >>> contributions because I won't agree with this draconian license. >>> >>> First the telemetry, now this. >>> >>> I can't help but think that IT'S TIME TO FORK AUDACITY and let Muse do >>> whatever they want to the code they can prove is theirs. >>> >>> Cleber >>> PT_br translator >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Audacity-translation mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-translation >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Audacity-translation mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-translation >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Audacity-translation mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-translation >> > _______________________________________________ > Audacity-translation mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-translation >
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