Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 now out on Steam

The Logitech F710 is, in my opinion, far and away the inferior when compared with the Dualshock 4. This is not to say the F710 is without merits, but that the DS4 is the better product overall.

Some points and comparisons to consider:

  1. The F710 takes standard AA batteries, while the DS4 uses a proprietary rechargeable battery. This means the F710 is more maintenance friendly over time, whereas the DS4's battery can fail and at some point refuse to hold a charge. The flip side, however, is also true, in that the F710 can die on you in the middle of a gaming session, requiring fresh batteries, whereas the DS4 can be plugged in at any time to recharge it.

  2. The DS4 connects to the computer via industry standard Bluetooth or Micro USB cable for both wireless and wired gaming, respectively. The F710 cannot connect to the computer via a wire to game without batteries, and its adapter is a propri etary Logitech receiver, which poses its own problems. Based on a quick Google search, it is not compatible with the unifying receivers, which means should you ever lose that little USB dongle, you'll have to shell out cash to use the product again. Furthermore, it often has pairing issues, as discovered by my girlfriend Ashley (who owns one), whereas I've never had pairing issues with the DS4.

  3. The buttons on the DS4 require a lot less pressure to activate than do the F710's. This is usually not an issue, but in a fighting game where multiple, time-specific button presses are required, having buttons which require more force can ruin your inputs. In particular, the L2 and R2 buttons require a lot more force to engage than those on the DS4. For UUMVC3, this isn't much of an issue since those buttons aren't so important, but if you plan to play other games such as SF4 or SF5, they may cause you to drop rapid-input moves (such as Chun Li's l ightning kicks).

  4. The analog sticks on the F710 have slightly more travel than the DS4's. They sport a convex surface for your thumb, whereas the DS4's sticks are concaved.

  5. The D-Pad for the DS4 is cut into specific cutouts in the surface of the controller, whereas the F710's D-Pad is a free-floating disc with the directions cut out into its surface. In my experience, disc-based D-Pad designs wear out and fail a lot quicker than do those of the DS4-s design. My DS4 has taken a lot of abuse from move inputs for Street Fighter 4 and never failed me, whereas my Logitech F510 (the wired model of the F710) eventually started to wear down, sometimes delivering either erroneous directional inputs, or not registering inputs at all.

  6. The F710 has a switch that lets you quickly switch between Direct Input and X-Input modes. The DS4 is (strictly speaking) only a direct input controller. Various wrappers and utilities such as DS4Windows can of course convert it to an X-input controller, however.

  7. The DS4 is a slimmer controller, with two long handles for the palms to wrap around during use. It sports no rubberizing, but does have textured plastic on the bottom. Depending on the way you hold the DS4, however, can leave your middle fingers resting on the slightly sharp edges of the sockets for the L2 and R2 buttons, which can be slightly irritating at first. This is a non-issue if you hold the product with your middle fingers on the bottom triggers and your index fingers on the upper shoulder buttons.

  8. The F710 is a pretty large controller compared to the DS4. Its handles are very short, leaving you very little from to grip. Consequently, you'll find yourself supporting the device with only your pinky and ring fingers. Furthermore, the handles flare out slightly, so you're holding the device with your hands angled slightly inward, rather than s traight like the DS4. Its handles are also ovular, which forces your hands into a specific gripping shape, whereas the DS4's round handles allow you free choice for hand posture.

  9. The DS4 sports a touch pad which, with the use of the DS4Windows driver, functions as a mouse movement option. Pressing down on the touch pad performs a left click.

In general, I much prefer the DS4 games for fast-action, high-input games like Street Fighter and UMVC3, but the F710 is anywhere from 10 to 30 dollars cheaper. I don't make these comparisons to convince anyone that one controller is necessary superior, but rather to give you an informed choice on which peripheral to use. That being said, my opinion does lean towards the DS4. If you already have a PS4, or are inclined to spend slightly more for your controller, I don't think you'll go wrong with Sony's flagship controller.

Kai

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