Re: College Degrees and Employment

@leibylucw, unfortunately I've met too many people in the Uk with a degree in computer science who have had terrible trouble job wise, maybe the degree is more common, or maybe it's that some universities are better than others, I was quite appalled when I found someone  had supposedly done a degree in computer science and when I asked them what programming language they preferd they didn't know what I was talking about big_smile.

Then again a separate problem in the Uk is the fact that in the mid eighties the government decided to up the number of people with degrees by making all technical colleges have the status of universities and hnd diploma qualifications have the status of degrees, which means unfortunately in the Uk your standard and type of teaching for a given qualification can vary pretty hugely, especially when a lot of places are offering degrees in fairly random, frequently made up subject that don't require much work, I famously heard of someone who took a degree in train spotting, and  standard joke is the amount of lager louts who take degrees in "sports science" as an excuse to  watch lots of football big_smile.

This means that a degree, even a degree from a prestigious university is on paper no more valuable than a degree which took someone a small  of work to get.

This trend might fall off with the increasing price of  higher education since I doubt that people who aren't serious would try to stump the money or get a lone to get a degree, which should theoretically cut out the pointless degrees and make good degrees more valuable, though in practice it is just resulting in fewer people going to any! unviersity at all and employers caring even less about degrees, ---- then again that is a social trend in general since if higher education is about stimulating individual thinking, that is not what most people in the prophet machine want of their employees anyway, and so the world of huxley comes ever closer.

@Afrim,  I can't speak about the quality of your teaching, but I'm afraid that just sounds like how university is.
In my degree I did six modules a year on different aspects of philosophy, Each week we got one lecture per module, and each fortnight we got one seminar, which meant an average of six lectures and two seminars a week.

The seminars were there to discuss in smallgroups with a professor and work out the various arguements. The lectures were meant as an overview of the salient aspects of the field, each also came with a reading list which listed materials we should go and read privately in each subject.

For each module, we had to write one 2000 word essay a term, an essay for  which we usually have had to have read at least five or six different sources (papers or chapters from books), and in most subjects the essays counted towards our final mark for the year.

In  the third term we had one exam per module meaning six exams, each exam requiring us to answer two or three questions, usually on whatever we'd written the essays on.

So the lectures and seminars gave us a broad overview, our essays allowed us to specialise to a limited extent, and the exams we were supposed to argue in a structured manner and show we'd understood the subject (which in a subject like metaphysics or logic could be quite interesting).

In the final third year we did only four modules (each with exam and essay), however for the last two modules we had to write one ten thousand word dissertation on a subject of our choice, ---- well ten thousand words for the actual dissertation, usually a couple extra thousand for the bibliography, since we were supposed to show we'd read extensively (I think  my dissertation's bibliography  had about 20 different things on it).

And if that was bad, the masters was even worse big_smile.


I'm not sure what's happening at your uni or why your finding things problematic, but  was how mine was.
the odd thing is I absolutely loved! it! the work, the reading, the lectures, it was the only place in my life I've been a fully accepted part of a community and if you offered me to go back I'd do it in a second, essay deadlines and all! big_smile.

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