Re: Pfizer or Oxford?
I actually can see both sides of the debate, however as pointed out in post 77 Ghost has serious problems accepting to lose an argument, and alters his ideas many times then he never accepts to admit that he lost a particular point, and rather try to defend it to death. So that is not the best way of presenting anything. I've had similar experience with him in another topic.
I do agree that in biology things often are kind of deceiving and there is always more and more new and surprising things that scientists discover about the human body every day. So if the question is simply which one to take, and both are available I wouldn't choose the totally new method just for the fear of the unknown. But if I have no other choice I would take Pfizer as we are in a pandemic, and any protection is better than 0 protection, even if it has a slight risk of long-term side effects.
I think that's what Ghost was originally saying, but I have no idea how the topic evolved like that lol.
IMO the problem now is bigger than the side effects because the tests that were conducted showed very clearly that it is very safe, at least short-term. nonetheless, the question here is whether the vaccine will really do what scientists intended it to do, (create the herd immunity).
And sadly many factors are showing that it won't, because first of all the antibodies are disappearing within 6 months, I am lazy to dig up links now but if you google it you will find plenty. My friend who lives in US actually caught Covid twice, and needed hospital in both times in a period of 7 months. Yes this will protect the lucky people who will take it right now, but by the time we can produce vaccine for the other non-vaccinated this protection will be gone and thus again we won't have the required percentage of vaccinated people.
Another important point to consider is the mutations, until now it is not clear if the vaccine will be effective in the new UK/South Africa mutation, which might very likely be present in other countries as well but just not yet discovered. In general, this is very clearly going to be like the flue shots, so it will need to be updated every year. I think our only hope right now that these currently available vaccines save the most vulnerable people, until the virus mutates to something weak and become like the flue.
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