Skunk wrote: > pfarrell Wrote: > >>But even decent, non-audiophile speakers can sound >>a ton better 8 or so feet from walls and corners. >>The bad thing is that most of us don't like in rooms >>with more than 8 feet ceilings, and it is really hard >>to get speakers more than 3 feet off the floor. This >>is where good WAF things like rugs do wonders. >> >>You also need to move your listening chair away >>from the walls (and corners). > > > FWIW I don't think these rules are as clear cut as you're making them > seem. Some speakers sound better closer to the wall/corner. Some rooms > need the listening seat close to the back wall. I would rather move my > listening chair than start throwing equalization at the problem. > Experimentation should dictate your placement, not audiophile ideals.
Its all personal taste, and moving stuff is free. But except for some rare speakers that are really designed to be placed in corners, most speakers do not image well against a well. Sure, some rely on the wall reflection to make up for wimpy bass response, but this is an audiophile list. "Bookshelf" speakers were amazing and popular not because they sounded fabulous, but that they sounded decent at all being so small and placed on a bookshelf. Before the KLH and AR bookshelf speakers of the 60s, all 'real hi-fi' speakers were huge. My main speakers a essentially monitors, so I have a subwoofer to cover frequencies below 50 Hz. I wasn't suggesting throwing equalization as a solution. Don't know where you picked that up. Acoustic treatment cures a lot of sins, but is very hard to do with an acceptable WAF. Active equalization causes all sorts of phase changes, so the cure is often worse than the problem. I could be convinced that a rare room or two could need the chair against the wall, but for imaging, you need the separate delay times. Check out the occasional room layouts used by audiophile magazine reviewers, they always have the listening chair far away from the wall. They also have rooms bigger than any in my house, but that is a separate topic. I believe it is very clear cut, put the speakers and chair away from the wall. But if you try it and don't like it, I'd love to hear about your hearing experiences. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
