pfarrell Wrote: > P Floding wrote: > > pfarrell Wrote: > >>Especially since the jitter problem is just fiction to make > >>people spend money. > >>I can believe it was a real problem decades ago. I see nothing > >>to indicate that any recent audiophile equipment has any audible > >>differences any more. > > > Decades ago? > > Why don't all transports sound the same then? > > Or was it just a flamestarter? > > Not an attempt to flame at all, which you should be > able to tell from my prior postings. > > I just do not believe that jitter is a serious problem anymore. > > I don't know what a transport is. Except for a very few (count them on > one hand) all the CD/DVD/SACD players use commodity PC transports. > It is unreasonable to expect that different brands using the same > parts would have different sounds. > > Last month's The Absoute Sound raved about a CD player that > costs $33,000. It is beyond my understanding how it could be even > three times better than a $10,000 CD player. > > All CD/DVD/SACD players pull bits from the plastic disk. > Bits are bits. Perhaps there is a difference in how they read, > focus lengths, ECC, etc. But I doubt it. > > There are different DAC chips out there. Some are really expensive and > cost as much as $10 each. Probably sonic differences there. > > And the analog signal paths can have impact on sound. No argument > there, > unless someone can implement straight wire with gain. > > But if you are talking about extracting bits from the plastic disk > and transporting it to a DAC (external or internal), I don't see > how any sort of transport has any impact on sound. > > When the digital signal has proper ECC, there is nothing you > can do to change the bits. That is one of the solid beauties > of being digital. > > And for stereo, with modern systems, I don't see that jitter is a > problem. Clock skew is a big problem in multi-channel recording > studios, > because you have more channels of signal than you can have on a two > channel ADC. So there is lots of potential for clock skew causing > all sorts of evil stuff. The solution for that is a master clock > driving > all the ADCs, and any number of vendors will gladly sell you > a clock, and all pro recording gear has clock inputs. > > For SqueezeBox to DAC to amp to speakers, in stereo, I just don't see > it. I don't see credible reasons for it in the audiophile > magazines, I don't see any engineering reason for it. > > And I sure don't see any reason to spend my hard earned money on a > problem that doesn't seem to be real. > > YMMV. > > If you want to talk about 24 bit samples at high sample rates, > I can totally believe that there is an audible difference. > But the industry completely screwed up SACD and DVD-A to the > point that no one cares about them, and transports that support them > are > becoming fewer. And major artists' labels are not releasing material on > > them. So high-wide, while wonderful, is like vinyl -- a niche product > for a tiny subset of audiophiles. high-wide could have finally killed > vinyl, but it failed. > > -- > Pat Farrell PRC recording studio > http://www.pfarrell.com/PRC
Why don't you start a new thread for ranting about your various beliefs, instead? You certainly seem less than up-to-date on the subject of digital audio technology. -- P Floding ------------------------------------------------------------------------ P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26332 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
