JohnnyLightOn;131771 Wrote: 
> While the placebo affect can be real and must be watched out for, a
> response by a number of people who agree on the effects of a given
> change is probably reliable without DBT, although not scientific or
> certain.

This statement at least is demonstrably false.  What you seem to be
forgetting is that the placebo effect is _real_ - groups of people
given sugar pills will consistently improve as compared to a group
given nothing (this is a hard experiment to control properly, but
nonetheless it's been done many times).

So the fact that many people report hearing something is not reliable
evidence that there is a real effect.


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