totoro;157202 Wrote: 
> Maybe they feel that you were behaving obnoxiously in any event, and
> that this "I wasn't talking about anyone in particular" meme is a piece
> of fairly transparent weaselry a la "plausible deniability".
> 
> It couldn't be that you were behaving badly, of course, that's out of
> the question.
> 
> I had been on the point of retracting my nastier statements, thinking
> that maybe I'd give you the benefit of the doubt. Then I saw this post.
> Now of course I won't. [EDIT: I did anyway, at least the ones where I
> actually called you an idiot-- the upshot is still the same, though]
> 
> Just to sort of outline things:
> You got pretty aggressive right from the beginning, with a particular
> early peak of rudeness at the "you make me laugh... haven't you ever
> seen..." (which combined the stupidity of conflating the marketing of
> huckster cosmetics to regulated or semi regulated pharmaceuticals) bit:
> notice that this was not responded to rudely. 
> 
> The next peak was when you posited that I should go on to a cosmetics
> board calling them all idiots (this compounded your general rudeness
> with your rather amazing presumption that _you_ got to decide what an
> audiophile is and what an audiophile might want to discuss). Again, the
> response was polite.
> 
> Things got a little odder when I pointed out that there are audiophiles
> who regard themselves as such but don't have the same interests as you,
> but still have a right to post. You agreed, but said that you didn't
> like slagging people off. I asked whom I had slagged off. You said you
> didn't mean anyone in particular. Since I was still trying to be
> polite, I didn't say anything, but the obvious question is: wtf do you
> mention it then? Just as an announcement to low flying planes and all
> the ships at sea? If you didn't mean anyone in particular, then it
> certainly didn't help in justifying your earlier behavior, and really
> wasn't relevant at all. Even at this point, my responses stayed
> polite.
> 
> Finally we got to the bit where you went on about inability to reason
> logically. Coming from someone who can barely string together a couple
> of coherent grammatical sentences, this was just too much for me, and I
> finally lost patience with you. 
> 
> As far as the "substance" of the argument goes, I said early on that I
> understood that we don't understand everything, and hence I understood
> that measurements are not everything, and that (controlled) listening
> tests are clearly important. You seem to have ignored all of this and
> lumped me in with some person(s) from the past who had a much stronger
> position that measurements are everything. Accordingly, you spent much
> of the time arguing with them, rather than me. I tried pointing this
> out politely, but you got shirty, at which point I told you you were
> fighting a straw man (which you were: this was a pretty classic case).
> At this point things really devolved. Suffice to say, you really never
> did address this issue.
> 
> Neither of us covered ourselves in glory here (I should have simply
> walked away). But the aggression was pretty one-sided, and not coming
> from me. I did call you an idiot at the end, but by then you had proven
> it. Your last post just shows that you are completely oblivious that you
> might not have behaved all that well.
> 
> What I find truly amazing is that you put on a hurt holier-than-thou
> act at the end of all of this, as if you were some innocent who was set
> upon by an aggressive lunatic, when it was you who started the whole
> fracas by trying to bully me. I guess I should have dealt with you the
> way tyler and tom did, with simple mockery. Oh, well.
> 
> Must be nice living in the 7th brane, or whichever other alternative
> universe you live in.

Yeah, well, try to keep it short and concise, and I might read it next
time.


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