jhm731;158258 Wrote: 
> Here's a quote from modifier/designer Alex Peychev(APLHIFI)'s forum
> about your "smoking" measurements:
> 
> "Those guys will never learn. At -60db you will need to go and put your
> ear on the speaker driver in order to hear something, so who cares about
> -130db noise floor of your digital source which, for example, is usually
> brought 60db up with a regular tube amplifier.
> 
> Here is the puzzling thing; the NWO-2.5 has barely -105db noise floor
> and barely -86db (0.0056%) THD+N. Note the tube stage is non-NFB.
> According to Mr. CEO, his Transporter should sound around 2 times
> better than the NWO-2.5  WOW!"
> 
> To prove your statement isn't "pure hype," why don't you contact
> Mr.Peychev and one of the audio clubs on audiocircle.com and arrange
> for a shootout with his NWO-2.5? Invite the other modifiers to bring
> their modified Transporters too.

I think I already conceded that measurements aren't everything.
However, a lot of people seem to care about jitter and power supply
noise, and these are measurable things where we can easily show that x
is better than y, and by precisely how many db or whatever. And I never
said Transporter sounds "2 times better" than anything, so please don't
put words in my mouth. In fact, I wouldn't even claim it "sounds
better" than a tube amp, although I can tell you precisely how much
better the SNR is, for example.

Can I hear stuff 120db down? Nope, I doubt it, but some other people
here on the forum have proved that they CAN hear some pretty incredibly
tiny sounds, such as the effects of different rounding and dithering
algorithms applied to the LSB of a 16-bit signal.

Also, have you considered that there could be things you can't
consciously hear even at -60db (or even at full volume, eg phase
linearity), but which might be absolutely critical to conveying
realism?


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