opaqueice wrote:
> Robin Bowes;191617 Wrote:
>> Not at all. You're assuming ideal speaker behaviour.
>
> Actually no, I wasn't.

Then you don't understand how a speaker works.

>> Sure, both speakers will oscillate at the same frequency, i.e. the
>> cones will move at the same velocity.
>
> Umm...  no.  If they have the same frequency but different x_max, the
>  one with larger x_max will move with a greater average velocity,
> greater v_max, etc.  Just think about it for a moment - it has a
> larger distance to go in the same time.

You said:

> Compare two cones, one large and one small, with a pure tone input,
> but amplified differently so that both speakers produce the same SPL.

"same SPL", i.e. amplitude is the same, i.e speakers are moving the same
distance.

>> But, the larger one will have more inertia and will take longer to
>> get going.
>
> True - that's called phase.  If the phase response of the speaker
>
>> The speed of the cone doesn't come into it - all speakers must
>> vibrate at the same speed to produce the same frequency and, apart
>> from non-linearities, that speed is constant over the whole are of
>> the driver.
>
> The first part is wrong, see above.

No, it's not. frequency is directly related to the speed of vibration,
so to produce a certain frequency the speaker *has*  to vibrate at a
certain speed.

>  The second part is also wrong -
> conventional cones are fixed at the edges, so clearly the speed can
> not be (and is not) constant across the area.

<sigh>

The cone on a speaker is not fixed around the edge - it is mounted on a
suspension ring which flexes as the inner cone moves in and out. Try it
- take the grilles off your speakers and push the cone in gently.

Better still, look here - there's a nice animated diagram that shows
just how it works.

R.

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