slimkid;215056 Wrote: > Having spent good part of my youth days fighting the dictatorship, I can > appreciate your vote. However, I'm disgusted with your reasoning. Also, > sounds rather pathetic that somebody who calls himself 'Logitech > director of marketing' would try to shout my mouth or to censor what I > read. I really have to wonder if Logitech company is OK with their > employees treating their customers like children. > > I may have come out somewhat too strong, but your comments and the sole > fact that this thread got deleted because somebody didn't like it, got > my blood boiling. > > K
First, I don't call myself "Logitech Director of Marketing" -- that's my job. And, like me or not, I'm responsible for the customer facing aspects of this business unit. I didn't censor *you* or shut *your* mouth. You should re-read my post without looking for "Big Brother". What I said was that I *VOTE* for leaving the thread deleted because I think that seeing the clear consequences of an action (in this case, a personal attack) is the best way to reinforce the correct behavior. I do happen to think that some of the participants acted in a very childish fashion, hence my reference to children. Also, *I* didn't delete the thread, the community did (OK, Sean did, but at the request of enough users). I easily could have done so, since I have moderator rights to the forum, but it isn't something I would do lightly. We believe our community should have this platform, but we're not obligated to provide a forum where it degenerates into flame wars and personal attacks. The rules here are pretty simple and we are serious about keeping this a place for candid, open dialog (including complaints about our products, our branding, etc) but not a place for personal attacks. If you look around, you'll find a lot of people who complain about what I do for a living (things like changing the logo on the Squeezebox, for example). I've NEVER deleted a single post or thread on that topic, despite it being a complaint directed very much at me. I believe people are free to disagree with me and have shown that in how I act in this forum. Sure, there are users here who I would *personally* like to ban. In fact, many of the members of the community would like us to ban them too. However, they are still able to post, because this isn't consistent with the direction we want to take with the forum. I'm quite capable of feeling one way personally (angry, upset, etc.) and acting another professionally. If I were to delete individual posts, that would be censorship. Deleting a thread is management. The thread in question had *some* signal amongst the noise, but precious little. If you want it, you can find it -- just not here. I've raised three children. I know childish behavior. That thread had it in spades, which is why the community wanted it gone and if my *vote* helps keep it gone, great. If the rest of the community votes differently, then the thread will be restored and locked. I'll be OK with that outcome. > "Power consists in one's capacity to link his will with the purpose of > others, to lead by reason and a gift of cooperation." -- Woodrow Wilson Consider that while Logitech has (and, by extension, I have) absolute power over this forum, including the ability to shut it off completely, we don't do ANY of that. It would be inconsistent with creating the community that is so important to us, and it would simply be an exercise in angering a lot of people for no good reason. If you look at anything we do, you should look at history for a sense of what happens here -- almost no one is banned, almost never is a thread even locked (let alone deleted), and we ASK the community before doing most of those actions. Please, cool your blood down, look rationally at what I actually said, and what actually happened, and then consider what I've said here. I really believe you're overreacting to a rather simple statement. -=> Jim -- JimC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36826 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
