schatzy;218599 Wrote: > If Omega thinks there is a difference between the first track played > and the second played and that it makes a difference turning if off and > then back on that is his opinion and no one should or has the right to > tell him he is wrong. That is how his ears hear it. Maybe mine do not > but that does not make omega wrong. >
Your atomized world of universal relativity is all fine and dandy. We each hear with our own ears, in our own rooms, though our own minds etc. Unfortunately that sort of philosophy doesn't help us all get together to fix something, because if there is a fault to fix it must be reproducible and observable by more than Omega. The reason why he is taking some flack is because - read the title - he claimed this second playing effect was a DESIGN MISS (implied = FAULT) in the slim devices product. It might be, but if it is a design fault, then it is *repeatable for different observers*. Different observers were unable to repeat it. Omega might still have a sample fault, in which case it will be repeatable - but for him. It will be independently observable, hopefully on test gear, but for his particular box only. Or, perhaps, because his buddy observed it too, for the Swedish version of slimserver, or the SB running on Swedish mains, whatever. It the very least it must be independently observable outside his subjective perception. That means other people must observe it in a controlled setting (= not warmed up by Omega as in "here, this thing sounds much better the second time than the first, don'tcha agree?"), or measurement should indicate a difference. The particular program advocated for measurement is junk IMO - the Audio Critic guy seems to be just as bad as the hard nut subjectivists, just in the other way IMO - but I can only say that *after* I have tried the program and found the results non-reproducible, compared to the advertised operation. The only people who have been able to reproduce this 'design miss' are Omega and his buddies AFAICS - and there is enough unusual behaviour associated with one of those buddies that there is a strong suspicion they are one and the same person. Omega may have a point - perhaps there is something screwy about how his SB works on his server. But he hasn't gone about trying to get independent confirmation of his results, simply raised the stridency of his claims. Dragging in logically unrelated red herrings like how people failed to realise jitter was an issue in the early days of CD etc doesn't actually strengthen his case. How are Slim Devices meant to fix his problem if a) it hasn't been confirmed to be a problem outside his signal path, and b) neither test equipment nor other *independent* listeners can reproduce his results? He has not in any way *proven* that this is a problem for other SB users. And he hasn't gone about getting independent confirmation that it is a problem with his (or even th Swedish) SB in a particularly organized way that could be used to chase it down. The fault he claims to have clearly is not one that affects other SB users outside his circle of friends in a significant way. -- ermine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ermine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
