Tyler, I don't feel I have made a logic error, as I was voicing my opinion, not making a blanket statement of "Truth". Sorry if I did not make it clear it seems my writing style (or lack thereof?) can be an impediment.
Regardless, the convincing factors, for me, was of some individuals whose opinions I've come to respect over the past few years...and I was merely linking that to why I ventured to put my $$ down to test and evaluate their claims. Did you also happen to catch the phrase immediately preceding the portion of my post that you (selectively?) copied, where I qualify this entire statement with, "This sounds ridiculous to me, but the number...". I am skeptical of "their" claims and will test and evaluate them for myself. I was skeptical of the audible benefits of component vibration control. I was skeptical of the purported benefits of certain types of power conditioning. I was skeptical of the effects of speaker placement and "room tuning". So, instead of my going and claiming to the world that these things "Could Not, Would Not, and Never Will" make any audible benefits to any individual's system; I went out, gathered what info I could, acquired materials, asked questions, and then tested and personally evaluated each of these to my own satisfaction in my system. Granted, what and how I've tested would not survive a "Peer-Review" and could not be taken by anyone else as anything other than "Opinion".....as this is Audio we're discussing, which its perception is a completely subjective and individual experience. But I've researched, tested, and then evaluated, which is the very foundation of critical thinking which you just bashed in your post. As defined on Wikipedia: "Critical thinking consists of mental processes of discernment, analyzing and evaluating. " So, have you tested CF yet, and can you tell me, with completely unbiased objectivity that CF CAN NOT have an audible impact or are you simply making an assumption and stating it as fact? In light of your response, please lay-off the derision and name calling, you're a senior member here.... Thank you for the kind welcome. Overall, I can understand a lack of open minds, this is not a forum dedicated to discussing experimentation with largely theoretical ideas, though I can say that as I read one or two posts in this thread, I recall reading of certain individuals claiming that it was an absolute physical impossibility for the Wright Bros. to fly. Let me back-up. A bit... I'm not trying to convince you, me, or anyone else that this CF stuff truly does work; I'm merely trying to show to those that are interested in the subject that there was enough interesting info out there to convince me (and others before me) to experiment with it. I did not quote or refer to even the tip-of-the-iceberg on the subject. You're right I did not address safety issues, but I do electrical wiring too; I work with chemicals daily; I drive a truck; and I even go swimming! All of these require proper preparation before engaging in the activity and can be quite deadly to those who "play" with them in an unprepared and childish manner. Thank you for the warning and for the MSDS, but I will pay-the-piper should I fail to prepare and act in a properly disciplined manner. Hey Opaqueice, Yeah, you're probably right on both fronts. Everyone should be skeptical of the claims .test and evaluate for oneself! And I think youre totally correct about the Faraday Cage statement too. Im not certain about the aluminum foil statement though, as Ive tested it a bit, and found that the foil, grounded or ungrounded, wrapped around cables, components, or the entire rack seemed to have more negatives or no-impacts than benefits that I was able to perceive, in my system, at that time Maybe incorrectly, I have hypothesized that: 1) A combination of the shield (metal body of most components = a Faraday Cage) with a CF absorber may potentially add a bit of audible effectiveness. 2) That plastic bodied components may benefit more than the metal cased ones due to a lack of "shield" (and CF is cheaper, quicker, and easier for me to cover an existing component than using a metal project box, or sheet-metal). 3) That unshielded cables (PCs and ICs), specifically, may benefit from CF. Of course I could be totally wrong with all of the above, but for $60 I get to test/experiment and determine perceived effectiveness in my own system, first-hand as opposed to relying on others' reports or theories. So, likely I've wasted $60, but on the off-chance that I did not....hmmmmm, that will make me quite happy. I live less than 300-meters from the beginning of a transmitter array I suffer from EMI/RFI related issues....aarrghh. Thank goodness I'm a hopeless Tweaker, and I keep repeating to my significant other something that I read recently when she comments on the amount of time I spend experimenting, building, and re-arranging .I tell her, "At least its High-Fidelity and not In-Fidelity!!" Best regards to all, Doug -- Dyak ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dyak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628
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