Phil Leigh;232872 Wrote: > [long post] > > Mister Pig (great name BTW!): > > 1) I'm well aware of what goes on in studios :o) - my point was that > headphones are generally used as an analytical tool for dissecting > mixes and spotting problems etc. Of course full range (and nearfield) > monitors are used for the final mixdown balancing etc. > > 2) "Stereo" is a complete illusion, recreated by the brain which as RB > said is doing some powerfull DSP to do this. The less work the brain > has to do to achieve what it feels to be a realistic synthesis, the > better the listener feels about the sound. This is the underlying cause > of "listener fatigue" IMHO. > > Remember that single microphones have no concept of left or right (or > up and down for that matter!) only louder/quieter, nearer/further. > > Stereo works because we have two ears and a brain - and by supplying > the ears with a suitable signal we can recreate the impression of the > original soundfield. > > Anything that has been close-mic'd or multitracked has to be > manipulated to produce a suitable soundfield. In the simplest case this > is achieved by positioning an instrument within the soundfield by > panning it left/right. At the end of the day, the engineer will > position an instrument more left or right by altering its volume - > that's all. OK so he/she might delay it and eq it as well. > > > The fact that two or more people can listen to the same track and place > the instruments in the same soundfield location is testament to the fact > that our ears and brains work in the same ways. For exactly the same > reason, we humans can generally agree on the concepts of "red", > "sweet", "rough" etc. > > I respectfully ask you read this link as it explains the "stereo > illusion" much more clearly than I can > http://www.ambiophonics.org/App_B_ambiophonics_2nd_edit.htm > > 3) In the interest of science and to address your concern about > headphones, I repeated the test again using speakers (had to wait for > an empty house!). I fully understand that you are not necessarily going > to buy this but guess what? I could not tell the difference between > streamed flac or wav. Test methodology was as before. Replay system > was: SB3-Altmann JISCO+UPCI-TACT 2.2x(digital coax i/o, upsampling to > 96Khz for output) MF DACX-v3+PSU, MF X-10 Tube Buffer, Linn 5103, > 3xLinn LK140 amps with Aktive crossovers fitted, Linn Espeks (ceramic > bases, spiked into the floor) Townshend Supertweeters, Linn Seizmik > sub, Kimber 8TC speaker cables, Russ Andrews mains leads, Chord > Reference i/c's (digital coax is all Kimber silver). Sorry about all > the "K"'s :o) > > Hope you find this interesting > Regards > Phil > [/long post]
Hi Phil, That is interesting. I really don't have any vested interest in this debate, personally a lossless format would be more convenient. Makes me wonder if I have a set up issue in ITunes that is creating a problem. Since I store my music in uncompressed WAV does the SB program have to convert to FLAC and then return to WAV? I wonder if I rip with a lossless encoding to start with? I do know that at this time, the two formats do not sound the same. So there must be something responsible for this variation. Any recommendations then on where to look? Regards Mister Pig -- mister pig ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mister pig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12566 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38258 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
