Robin Bowes;233781 Wrote: 
> servies wrote:[color=blue]
> Pat is not an audiophile. I am not an audiophile. I can't speak for
> Pat, but I'm a music enthusiast with a background in audio engineering
> (I have a degree in Electracoustics, worked in recording studios,
> worked on live sound, etc). I believe Pat has a similar background in
> audio.
> 
> The two polar extremes in this field are:
> 
> 1. Engineer - I don't care what my ears tell me - if you can't measure
> it, it's not real. We know what we're doing.
> 2. Audiophile - I swear it sounds better if I write my name on page 42
> of a book and put it in the freezer. Really, it does.
> As always, the reality lies somewhere between the two extremes.
> Now, I'm not sure what your agenda is, but you appear to be a
> certified, card-carrying Engineer - and a particularly vociferous
> example at that.
> 
> The DBT chestnut is often rolled out on these forums because it is
> proven that sighted testing is flawed because of the powerful
> suggestive effect of external influences. This is all very well, but it
> struck me today that this can work both ways.
> 
> The whole listening experience is a psychological thing - without your
> brain processing the information received by your ears you wouldn't
> "hear" anything. So, it seems eminently reasonable to me that one way
> to improve your listening experience is to influence your brain. The
> ultimate goal here is to enjoy the music; and if performing bizarre
> rituals enhances your listening experience then so what?
> R.
In that case: why does it seem like you have a problem with debunking a
possible fraud? If they claim that their cable is superb compared to
others, why can't I ask them to proof it with a valid test. 
I'm a software engineer that's why I want proof and don't believe in
things people hear but can't measure... especially knowing that human
ears are extremely limited...


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