honestguv;240282 Wrote: 
> 
> Unless you want this forum to be steadily overrun by the irrational I
> would suggest that teasing within limits is the appropriate response.
> Audiophiles have not become audiophiles by following a path of reason
> and they will not be shifted from their beliefs by reason. But because
> of the link between their beliefs and their sense of status/worth they
> struggle more than most when being teased as can be seen in this
> thread.

As a card-carrying subjectivist for many years may I make a few
comments.

Although I am on the "rational" side of the argument, as you put it, I
perceive your comments as more provocative than informative. Maybe you
didn't intend that - but that's how I read it.

I know I had a chuckle at some comments but I didn't perceive it as
directed toward Vic (something I wouldn't approve of) more as general
banter.

For me, my road to Damascas was some blind tests. Since then I've been
on a much more objective route including (gasp) measuring things in my
system and room. I have to say the SQ has improved considerably since
then.

Personally, the biggest barrier to progress was my supposition that
what I hear is caused 100% by sonic input. Now I accept that what I
hear is caused by a combination of sonic input and my mind. It is
possible for me to reach quite false conclusions by listening to
anything sighted. It is *probable* I will reach quite false conclusions
listening to anything that isn't level matched. Such statements would
have appeared unnecessarily, even bizarrely, self-doubting to me a year
ago but now I accept them as the unfortunate truth.

Until I accepted these fundamental facts, these first and above all, I
found improving my listening experience difficult, slow, expensive and
confusing.
Darren


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