Listener;411146 Wrote: 
> An image of a pigeon in your back yard would be evidence.  A dead pigeon
> you collected in your back yard would be evidence.  Even pigeon
> droppings from your back yard would be evidence.

Exactly my point.  Evidence that proves the existence of the pigeon is
easy.  You didn't list any examples that would prove the lack of a
pigeon to someone who was sure there was one hiding back there
somewhere.

> We don't even see the equivalent of pigeon drooppings in most audio
> discussions.

Again, exactly my point.  It's fairly easy to prove that you CAN hear a
difference, but people who claim to hear a difference choose not to,
throwing the responsibility on others to prove they can't--which as we
both demonstrated above, is a much harder task.

> In fact science produced the theory of Quantum Mechanics in response to
> experiments and theoretical issues.  So what great advances has
> subjectivist thinking produced?

Bad example, you're right.  String theory.  Many Freudian/Jungian
theories.  Both at least started out as "making up stuff that works out
the way we like, and can't be tested".  I understand string theory is on
the cusp of being testable so I may retract that half.  Admittedly I'm
no big fan of either.  But in their favor, they sure inspired some good
science by others, even if they were suspect in their own right.

Honestly I think that's the best thing about subjectivists in my
opinion.  They ask the crazy off-the-wall questions that get things
moving in a whole new direction.  When it comes to providing answers,
they're not so good, unfortunately.


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