But mswlogo you have an almost completely digital playback chain I only
have an G68J I have not got to ordering me some dsp speakers -yet-.

Can we not assume some processing to ? are we sure that a Meridian
System would always use all 24bit of it's dac's, on all frequencies
even att full volume (I think not)?

You have a digital room correction and speaker calibration and subwofer
filters and digital crossovers these works in 64bit floating point
internally.

The volume controll also use dithered I think.

But this has to be 24bit integers somewhere, in your case in the
speakers, but as some Eq is involved in the signal processing, I think
if one run an frequency sweep 20-20k one would see slightly different
resolution atthe dac's.

This is not a "problem" at all really, I think it's completely masked
by the nonlinearities in dac's and amps.

while a do think that the meridian way of completely digital audio to
after the speaker x-over would generate more resolution than ever
possible with analog components in the chain.
The Meridian system IS transparent to the signal (except for the wanted
dsp effect) all the way until it's time to do DA conversion.

Example DVDA analog cable to Preamp 100 -120 dB DVDA mhr link -144dB ,
the conventional system is dead in the water already.

This leads to my foggy thought here, If you have a digital playback
chain and lowers the resolution on the input data and use -120dB
signals . can you ever be sure of what you are listening too ?

I personally would never use anything but 100% volume on my Touch with
any digital processor connected to it.

1. The process may need the headroom. I also use some dsp effects in my
processor, so this is a given.

2. Most digital pre-amps and processors of any pedigree uses dithered
volume controls and often have finer resolution than the one provided
in an Squeezebox (which is not bad at all, but it can be done slightly
better).

But on the other hand, in a simpler system say dac analog preamp analog
poweramp, passive speakers.
The Noise floor and distortion will follow the simple rules discussed
in this tread. But this system -has- more noise and distorsions than a
digital playback chain to begin with so it will mask the artifacts even
better.

So you can listen to this signal in:

A. A high resolution almost completely digital system that may skew the
results due it's processing.

B. A good ol almost completely analog rig with tubes and all ;) which
would mask the signal completely in it's own grunge.

And as others have pointed out is what do this test tell me ? I cant
say I'm at the end of my own competence here.
An analogy, If use my 1080 HD projektor and walk all the way to the
screen and look at the pixels, what does this tells me ? It's out of
contexts of how you use it normally but i can see things here.

I'm I looking at the "pixels" of my audio system when doing this test
?
Can I even begin to generalize, based of what I hear in my system ?

:confused: my conclusion is that it is not easy to do a scientific
experiment .

And not to mention the human factors involved in listening.

I'll go and download these test files myself and indulge in audiophile
obsession at my leisure this beautiful spring Sunday.

Thanks for the effort of making these test files available.


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Mnyb

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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS,
Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 )
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4
Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery)
I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to
control this
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