Rick58;611445 Wrote: 
> I have not participated in such things, but if I were to, I would insist
> that I be allowed to provide the music (say, a CD) that contains
> elements that I know well, and be allowed to take notes and refer to
> notes that I might bring.
> 
> For example, say in the song there is a tambourine line that I perceive
> as being 5' behind and to the left side of the singer, the singer's
> voice has a small touch of added artificial reverb that I have
> perceived as sounding a certain way, etc..
> 
> If I cannot hear these things in sufficient detail on the 'reference'
> system before changes are made, I would not participate.
> 
> (edit: were you allowed to provide music? take notes? I am actually
> interested in this in an 'academic' fashion, altho I may not ever agree
> to participate in such a thing!).
> 
> Listening to unfamiliar music, systems, rooms and being asked to
> accurately discern when things change doesn't make any sense to me.
> 
> There is mention of some DBT or something where folks were supposedly
> unable to tell when a wire hangar was used as speaker cable, and this
> is brought up as 'proof' that all cables sound alike ... those kinds of
> arguments to me show the fallacy of the 'DBT' "movement".

of course you could use your own music, take notes, etc. And DBT
doesn't mean that you listen to a snippit then switch and listen to
another snippit. You can listen for weeks at at time to one source or
the other. Take notes, etc. The key is that YOU, the listener, don't
know which "system" you are listening to until after you're done with
the experiment.

Regarding the coat hanger speaker wire, the only point there is that
self professed audiophiles were not able to distinguish between high
quality speaker wire and a coat hanger in a controlled test. This
doesn't mean that there are not cables/wires that can make a
difference. But it does illustrate that self awareness is not as good
as many people think.


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