Tom186;649217 Wrote: 
> Most certainly. Is it going to run with Async USB at all? No luck with
> my current setup (an Arcam rDAC with USB), with any of the current USB
> Audio solutions out of the SBT, including the one in soundcheck's tools
> and the one John Swenson proposed.
> 
> Best, Thomas

I've been working on the USB DAC issued again this week, its getting
better but still not perfect. 

There are a couple different issues, most of which relate to 24 bitness
not async per se. One issue is that most USB DACs that use 24 bit use a
different 24 bit format than the The Touch uses, this requires you use
the PLUG interface, which adds an extra layer and messes things up. I
have a custom jive_alsa which supports the other 24 bit format, which
allows you to not use PLUG, this helps a lot but isn't perfect, I still
get occasional clicks and pops. 

I have been playing a lot with thread priorities and can significantly
change the pattern of clicks, but so far I have not been able to get
rid of them entirely. 

Another thing that helps is the udev script that was posted here a
while back, this makes sure that the USB DAC winds up with the same
card number. Unfortunately it doesn't go far enough and sometimes it
can still wind up in conflict with existing devices (S/PDIF or one of
the two DACs). This can cause some issues as well. I need to get some
time to revamp the udev script so it handles all sound devices and
makes sure all devices are always unique and the same name.

I don't think its hopeless, sometime we will figure out how to get
modern USB DACs to work well with the Touch.

I don't think its a driver issue, the existing one does seem to handle
async properly, it seems more like its interrupt priority/latency
issues more than anything else. Its actually very dependant on what
else is going on inside the Touch, so all the stuff Soundcheck has been
working on helps a lot. I just think I have not found the right
combination of priorities and buffer sizes etc. 

The interesting thing is that when I go back to 16 bit mode everything
works fine, no clicks or pops, but the moment I turn on 24 bit mode,
problems start happening. 

IF your DAC supports 16 bit, and you are listening to 16 bit music, and
you have the volume set to 100 then there should not be a problem going
to 16 bit mode, BUT a lot of modern DACs will not run in 16 bit mode,
which means I need to get this figured out.

John S.


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