darrenyeats;684855 Wrote: > MCR, > At the risk of being a pawn in your indeterminable game... > > My opinion is, "it's an illusion" is - IN ITSELF - not an argument to > say something isn't present in a recording. Because the whole thing is > an illusion. > > After all, hearing real sounds in a real space is an illusion > (constructed from just oscillations in two eardrums) > > The question is whether audio playback can encode "enough" for the > brain to achieve an illusion comparable to the natural illusion. > > On this question, I believe the brain is quite sophisticated in using > patterns over time windows so that stereo playback can be more > effective than is obvious. In any event, I don't believe > psychoacoustics is fully understood yet. > Darren
Everything, but thats the piont it's cooked and prepared for your enjouyment, some recordings of purely acoustical music tries to mimick reality in some way , tries to capture the hall acoustics etc, works very well in some cases . Modern "loudspeaker music" is created for speakers , just listen to the instrument combination they obviusly don't go together but with multi channel mixing they do, and some instruments does not even have a sound, like a synthesizer it only has outputs, so no one has ever heard one it is always reproduced via speakers . It's like paintings some uses a more realistic style some are abstract but none is real, but they are work of art. Or a photo it is also an ilusion but we buy it amazing actually , or tv we can get drawn in to the tiny 2d square with 3 inch people and get excited sad or scared even ? an purely acoustic recording with only acoustical instruments can be said to sometimes have a " reference " the original performance, but sometimes not even that, the venue and mic placement can be chosen to give off good records rather than good live performance. The good sound engineer migth be very aware off that it would not sound the same when recorded and use it to an advantage ! In the best of circumstances the mixing suite of the producers and master engineer may be the reference for loudspeaker music, but such music is per definition created from ground up it never really existed in the first place it exists when you play the tape/cd/file . a side track ( again ) If you ever heard of THX , not the home variant but what it means for cinema, it all about controlling the ilusion . sound track engineers have always strugled with the problem that the movie does not at all sound like it did when they mixed it at the cinema . so a THX cinema follows a strict set of specifications in acoustics electronics, dispersion patterns off speakers and many more things and most importantly a calibrated playback level ! ( remeber fletcher munson aka loudness curve ) . This is ofcourse not perfect. But the goal is that with this aproach the sound engineer can at least have clue on what the audience actually will hear. This gives better soundtracks as more subtletly can be used and the producers knows that it comes trough to the audience. There is no such thing for music, how loud is important at which level does it sound as intended ? Do the producers of music even have a target level ? -- Mnyb -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93105 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
