cliveb wrote: 
> I have an anecdote that I like to trot out at times like these... What
> you hear is far more to do with what your brain gets up to than the
> actual soundfield produced by the stereo system.

Of course! And that is why, the best test setup sometimes may fail. If
you hear the same track twice in a double blind setup, you might have
another mindset the first and the second time you listen... That is, why
I trust my long time listening experience much more than fast
comparisons. Its over time that I notice improvements or degradations.
When I get more frequently those moments where I just have no choice
than to sit down and listen, and I close the eyes and "see" the
orchestra, jazz band, or dee Dee B., then it is, because a change
happened.

The last time I noticed that, was, when I had to send my touch back to
Logitech. It had stoped working one day and went to repair... I got a
brand new one back. All right. I connected it and it was just aweful.
Really. It was audio and not music, I guess, you know what I mean. I
tried all my well know tracks. Everywhere the same. I noticed even
harshness in the treble where it had never been as far as I remembered.
I gave up and listening was just background for a couple of weeks. Then
one day I was pleased of what I heard (on Winston Mankunku Ngozi,
Abantwana Be Africa (Children of Africa), a wonderful CD by the way) -
and I sat down again... Just great! After a couple of more such
experiencies it was clear for me, that something changed. Nut just a
subtle thing. Really dramatically. I had not changed anything in the
setup! But the sound was just again like i remembered it as it was
before: With my previous Touch, before it went to repair. Now I guess
there is already a thread, probably discussed passionately, about the
effects or not of breaking in (although the 0 and 1s look the same ;-)
), so please let's do not start here with this question, but anyway, I
have no other explanation to what I observed. So far for my anectote.

So again: I will connect my Touch by async USB as soon as my DAC is
upgraded and I find time to do so, and I will let you know whether there
is improvement or not. You might be right: s/pdf is usually rated better
than USB, so the result may be better, worse, different or just the
same, I do not have any particular expectation. I won't even try to
justify my investment: The upgrade is not expensive and it is mainly
made for the possiblity of connecting a computer, so it makes sense
anyway, even if the Touch keeps sounding better through s/pdif.

darrenyeats wrote: 
> I agree several posters have kept to theoretical matters. But myself and
> TheOctavist have given you our listening experiences. They may or may
> not coincide with your views (apparently they don't) but they are what
> you asked for.
@darrenyeats: Yes. I appreciat that, and I thanked you for that
yesterday!

@TheOctavist: And I thank TheOctavist too, in particular for the
listening testimonial part of his post!


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