Archimago wrote: 
> Hard to say Quad. What is the difference you're hearing?
> 
> What's the setup for the HDMI - off a graphics card, motherboard? What
> computer are you using? I presume there's no sample rate conversion,
> ReplayGain, or anything like that going on in foobar as garym
> suggested...  I don't know if any HDMI interface has ASIO to insure
> bit-accurate output without going through an internal resampler,
> dithering, and volume control. DirectSound IMO *always* messes up the
> output - easily demonstrated when I do jitter tests.
> 
> As you probably know, there's been some talk about jitter for HDMI on
> some gear being in the multiple-nanosecond range (I think the M51 should
> be much better but who knows how the computer-DAC interface functions in
> this regard). Stereophile measurements look very good but they didn't
> bother checking the HDMI interface.
> 
> I presume the Touch is at 100% volume, no transcoding/bit rate
> limiting/server resampling.
> 
> Here's something you can also try once you get a TosLink cable - connect
> BOTH of the Touch's coaxial and TosLink to the M51 and verify if the
> interfaces sound the same through the same player before connecting the
> CDP vs. Touch.
> 
> I still think an SPL meter is important to make sure volume differences
> isn't creeping into the evaluation.

It's hard to describe the difference in words. I will necessarily sound
like always.... But I'll give it a try.

In favor of the Touch:
- PC sounds somehow thinner
- Touch is somehow warmer

In favor of the PC:
- sounds more effortless
- harsh recording passages have less ringing (piano, violin)
- less fatiguing

My hardware is an Intel HD 3000 with HDMI out (integrated into Sandy
Bridge processor). And as far as I can remember WASAPI is the
bit-perfect Windows alternative to ASIO (Steinberg). I get the same
results if connected through USB and WASAPI. There is no processing
involved, neither on LMS nor on foobar.


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