darrenyeats wrote: 
> What is hi-fi? For some hi-fi is being true to the recording. For some
> hi-fi is about making recordings sound like real life. These are very
> overlapping but very distinct approaches and either is valid IMO. The
> confusion of these two approaches is very fundamental to the subjective
> versus objective arguments. *Understanding this is key to unravelling a
> lot of the confusing and circular arguments* IMO.

Unfortunately we have a third class - the "subjective objectivists", if
you like, who generalize from "sounds better to me" to "is therefore
better in an absolute sense, for everybody". 

> For me measurements and subjectivity can and SHOULD live together.
> Demonstrated facts must be accepted but I accept also that scientific
> models have changed over time, usually but not always by a process of
> evolution.

But what hasn't changed (well, since the 1500's) is the process and
method of verifying and modifying our scientific models. Observations
that appear to go against our current understanding are only the first
step - most "subjectivists" (and adherents of faith/belief/personal
experience-based systems in general) never get beyond that first step to
the next one, verifying and replicating the observations, not to mention
any of the further steps along the path...



"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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