Julf wrote: 
> Just out of curiosity, what would it take?

You can do repeated tests at home with varius material . In my case the
tenth time you see the pattern .

Besides the physics off it . You are the limit for Frequncy response .
And equipment background noise and again you limits the dynamics .

I tried a thingat home i played a -112dB midrange (minus ,very quiet )
signal at full volume in my hifi I could hear it over ambient noise with
some electronic noise when being very close to a speaker .
The signal was not audible from my listening position ,again with the
volume at 100% on the hifi something I never do in reality .
And my hif is quiet I dont hear any amp noise sitting in the listening
position , I can haer when records start due to increased noise .



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Misc use: Radio (with battery)
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(in storage SB3, reciever ,controller )
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