pablolie wrote: > .. She winced as the cable bit deeper into her flesh. He seethed "You > stupid cow, keep still behind the stereo rack and switch the XLR > connectors without making such a fuss. It's impossible to conduct an A-B > test with you! .." > > I am a bit amused that the topic quickly turned into universal > condemnation of HiRez tracks established via a lab measurement... and > not by a listening test. :-) Does that partially imply that -rationally- > we should all be perfectly happy with an iPhone and a par of good > earbuds and some well recorded 256k VBR music?? :-D One could make the > point given the fact the person interpreting the files states (somewhat > carefully) that at 320k he probably wouldn't have been sure if he > measured a roll-off. > > Typically I say, let people do what they do and feed their own > psycho-acoustic preferences. If it makes them happy, let 'em stack up > 100ks worth of equipment and some voodoo unobtanium-enriched > super-conductor cabling and hey, it's no beef of mine. People ought to > chill and let each other chill. Then again, I have seen a guy storm off > in disgust when he lost a gentleman's bet about his 450k system not > sounding better -in fact, consensus was worse- than another gentleman's > 25k system, to never be seen in the same wine bar again. > > On this HiRez thing, in general I don't see the point of 1960s analog > tapes supposedly being taken out of a vault after 50 years > (deterioration anyone?) and sampled at 48/384; when the studio originals > prolly barely merit 192k MP3. I mean, I worship Bill Evans' "Waltz for > Debby", and I *do* own a 320k MP3 rip from CD I made with my original, > painful conversion run in 2005-2007 using dbPoweramp when Allmusic's > database was patchy and you had to enter the entire info for many albums > manually. (BTW I also FLAC'd it, but could never tell the difference). > When it was offered online at 24/192 I went for the test. Sure, they > cranked up the loudness some. But not a nuance more detail, in fact I > seemed to prefer the original rip. The clinking glasses, the bass or > piano aren't an ounce clearer. > > With that I am not saying I don't believe in some additional envelope > beyond the 16/44 commandment that was seemingly burned into clay tablet > in ancient times. But with some post-1995 recordings that are pristinely > recorded, if I can get a 20/44 or 24/88 hey I will get it. Perhaps one > magic day I'll tell myself I did hear the difference. :-) (And what a > shame for some of the original DDD recordings, the harsh tiring nature > will be there forever). > > In the end - I am glad we have the choice between the different formats.
I agree with almost everything you so nicely stated except that in your statement: "Typically I say, let people do what they do and feed their own psycho-acoustic preferences. If it makes them happy, let 'em stack up 100ks worth of equipment and some voodoo unobtanium-enriched super-conductor cabling and hey, it's no beef of mine. People ought to chill and let each other chill." What if the "people" are just ordinary people, such as friends or relatives, but paid reviewers of audio equipment spouting off something that runs completely counter to proven scientific facts? And the sole purpose of their writing is to instill FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) in the mind of the reader? Well then I take issue with that writer's motives and call BS on their "observations". However if the "people" in your statement are just ordinary people then I try to present the facts which show that what they think are hearing cannot be so and hope that they will see the error of their way. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: SBS on dedicated windows 7 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101068 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
