Julf wrote: 
> Then we can at least have a rational, fact-based discussion about the
> results, instead of having to resort to name calling.

Don't mention fact based or rational without expecting that it will
bring all of those insults out of the woodwork!

It appears to be how Placebophiles work:

Placebophiles don't want facts, they want illusions.

Placebophiles don't want reason, they want imagination.

Now, I love illusions and imagination, but I also like facts and reason.
Everything in its place, eh? ;-)

But yes I hope that some real measurements will get some kind of a
corresponding response from people with dogs in this fight.


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