jkeny wrote: 
> No, this is exactly the issue - appropriate measurements are informed by
> the theory of operation of the device - that's why I called bullshit on
> Archi's 8KHz suggested measurement. You can't just go off, half-cocked,
> measuring whatever takes your fancy - it's not science, it's not
> objective, it shows nothing of worth & proves nothing!! Well, the
> manufacturer is working on measurements, I believe but there is another
> way to evaluate a device - listen to it :)

A fact is a fact is a fact.

However. Not all facts are relevant. Actually most facts are irrelevant
to any specific topic. Perhaps that's what you mean.

Yet another however. Right now there are precisely zero facts in this
discussion. Generally speaking any fact would enable us to discuss and
criticize the relevance of that fact. Someone would immediately devise
a(nother) test, which then could be performed and discussed. Naturally,
starting off with a well-thought-out measurement procedure often saves
time and effort. While I'm certain that any fact and any measurement
metod would be bashed, it would form a basis for discussion. At the
moment we lack that completely. 

But in this particular case what ultimately matters is if an input
change results in an output change. With output I mean the output of the
DAC. So it's easy to devise a well-thought-out test. Noone can
successfully argue against the validity of a null test. If the
difference is undetectable then the input change is of no consequence
and therefore also of no interest. If the difference is detectable but
small enough, it will not be humanly possible to hear. If it's
reasonably sized, the device under test is of value. 

At this point I cannot know whether this contraption works, but right
now this goes for everybody here. Perhaps even for the manufacturer.



Best Regards,
Gandhi

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