Wombat wrote: 
> Linking to CA for the proof of anything is a joke.

Agreed (but you already knew that)

SBGK wrote: 
> Just like the global warming theories haven't predicted the stall in
> global temperatures.... 

Another zombie lie (lies that continue to persist in spike of debunked
over and over and over....)

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/pause-in-warming-debunked

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-pause-in-global-warming/

http://insideclimatenews.org/news/04062015/global-warming-great-hiatus-gets-debunked-NOAA-study

I suggest that you keep up with the current state of affairs in an issue
as important as global warming, aka climate change.

Gandhi wrote: 
> I wonder about one thing. We invented the scientific principle 400 years
> ago. (But perhaps the chinese actually invented it much earlier? They
> were really good mathematicians 6,000 years ago, I think. Western
> history books seldom include their history.) I find it hard to believe
> that suddenly a mutation that allowed scientific thinking rapidly spread
> over the world at that time. We must have been able to think like that a
> long, long time, even if we didn't do that on a great scale. Has any
> proof ever been produced that says that we have changed at all for
> thousands of years? Since agriculture was invented 11,000 years ago we
> have adapted to new food. But our mental capacity? Since the 1960s
> (IIRC) we have started developing better concentration skills (bigger
> working memory), because of the increasing amount of information we are
> exposed to. That is said to translate directly to abstract intelligence.
> So according to neurocognition scientists, humans get more intelligent
> by the decade, because of our environment. This curve has a name, which
> I have forgotten. But did this perhaps already start 400 years ago? If
> so, could it have been the greater cities with more impressions, the
> invention of the printing press and possibly time to read because of
> better living conditions in general (if they were actually improved)?
> Just thinking out loud...

So gee how is that the Egyptians managed to build those pyramids? There
is an overwhelming bias in today's world that mankind lived in the dark
ages until Steve Jobs appeared on earth to save us mere mortals (I'm
exaggerating :)). Seriously there is a strong bias in favor of "modern"
science which only serves to discredit the very real scientific
achievements and discoveries that were made and that were well known
prior to The Dark Ages. For example the concept of logarithms was well
known hundreds of years ago
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm#History).

In particular this bias runs strongly in favor of electronics and
computer science and against what I would Newtonian science, i.e. the
everyday physical world. Of course my feelings on this issue are also
very biased by the fact that I am a mechanical engineer. Funny thing is
when one needs to dig a hole a simply shovel works a whole lot better
than an iPhone app.

I'm not trying to be a Luddite but only to point out that much of the
foundation for today's modern marvels was laid many, many years ago.



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