doctor_big wrote: > S > PS: > Did you ever - just for a second - think that this sub-forum was created > just so that there WAS a place where these audiophiles you so love to > ridicule (and get a cheap buzz from doing so) could talk about cables > and stuff without having to deal with you bunch of cheerless bullies? > Why do you glean such a sour pleasure from ridiculing and name-calling a > group that really doesn't want anything to do with you? Why not leave > them in peace in a nice, damp little corner of this forum? What sad > character flaws do you have that this activity soothes?
Point taken, but although not being involved in these flame wars, I recently had to see them through the invasion of the "what's new" timeline that was eaten up by the audiophile sub-forum. I think what is making the people with a scientific background (over) reacting is when some people are in denial of simple scientific facts on the principle "are you sure, there might be something you don't know, open up". I even admit that I'm jumping a bit when I see discussions like "a file transmitted by email sounded more echo-ish" ... well no, this is the same file and I can explain and demonstrate the theory of code correction. But there is nothing wrong to have a better experience with an equipment that looks more refined or that you took hours to setup and polish. It sounds better to you and this is not "imagination", this is just adding extra sensorial factors to the experience, but factors that have nothing to do with the sound characteristics. And the experience is unique, is yours. On another discussion, I was making the parallel with eating: I can make the (almost) exact same meal at the molecular level and serve it at the same T°. Now, if you serve this to me in a nice and quiet restaurant, nice plates and glasses, polite waiter on a cool summer evening, I will probably tell you that the food tastes much better than the same one served in a noisy place, in plastic plates & glasses and with a waiter throwing meal at my table - and it *does* taste better and that experience can be repeated as many times as you want. But that's me. Some might have no sensitivity to the loudness of the restaurant and won't see any difference. That would be as foolish from me to try to prove the difference by some effect at the food atomic level as it would be foolish to say that because things are the same at atomic level, then all of us have to feel the same eating experience/pleasure. This is not relativism of everything, but just recognition of the multi-factor aspect of listening experience whose only some part can be quantified, but at least let's not waste our time on arguing on the quantifiable parts when they are the same. LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103950
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