darrenyeats wrote: 
> Thanks Clive.
> 
> To summarise what members utgg has clarified for us, a Touch volume
> setting of 40 (~-30db) or higher will be bit perfect with 16 bit source.
> So in this respect at least, similar to earlier Squeezeboxes according
> to your link.
> 
> That just leaves us (well, me anyway) the worry of volume 39 or lower
> with 16 bit source or volume below 100 with 24 bit source.

Good morning .. ( of to work in a minute )

With 24 bit sources you have a kind of wiggle room anyway so not quite
100 ( I'm again not going to figure the exact math, cue utgg ... )
We have discussed that no practical DAC's are really 24 bit ( more like
19-21 bit on a good day ).
That also goes for ADC and other recording equipment assume that the
best modern recordings ever made can reach the same level say 19-20 bits
,and that's a wide margin they are probably not that good .

Typical recordings don't even challenge the cd system ( most of the
recorded history including audiophile favourites like dstm ) , but this
is the audiophile forum so assume your best records on your best system
:)

A guess 80-90 volume is ok for the best recordings ever made ?

I have casually assumed that I have a practical 20 bit system at home (
best case quiet day ) and the recordings are at best 16 bit even if
branded as 24 bit ( 8 bit of random noise is not going to make it
better, even if you bougth them from HD tracks ) .

So what gives ? I think I can use some of the Touch volume 70-90 and all
of my meridian volume ( properly dithered ) without even theoretically
limit my sq .

I again I think the gain of the system is of more importance sending a
quit signal to the DAC means it closer to its noise floor but preamp or
power amp gain if of concern .

And I use bits and dB as the same thing ? You can assume that with
properly dithered modern equipment .



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