cliveb wrote: > This widespread belief that vinyl has to be cut from less compromised > masters due to the limitations of the format is misplaced. There is a > growing body of evidence that most modern rock/pop LPs are cut from a > master that is derived from precisely the same hypercompressed master > used for the CD release. (For sure there are a few where a different > master was used, but they are the minority). > > People use things like the DR value as "proof" that the vinyl has > greater dynamic range, but in fact that DR value is compromised by the > high-pass nature of vinyl - lose a bunch of low frequencies in the way > that *must* happen on vinyl, and the DR value automatically increases. > People have demonstrated this by taking a CD rip, high-pass filtering > it, and achieving a higher DR value. Similarly, when you look at a > zoomed in waveform ripped from vinyl, you'll see that flat-tops from the > CD are replaced with sloped waveforms, which on the face of it seems to > suggest less clipping. But in fact this is again a simple artefact of > the high-pass filtering intrinsic to vinyl. (A flat-top waveform is DC, > and vinyl by definition cannot reproduce DC). > > I wish to emphasise that I'm talking about new vinyl releases. It is > certainly true that "vintage" vinyl has greater dynamic range than the > CD re-releases - especially the so-called remastered ones. Whether that > benefit in dynamic range outweighs the downsides (non-linearity, higher > distortion - especially at end-of-side, surface noise, etc) is > debateable. I happen to think vinyl can sound bloody marvellous, but > let's keep things in perspective.
Hi Clive I'm aware of the artefacts that fool the DR database into reporting higher DR, but I can only offer my subjective impressions of owning both the digital and vinyl versions of many pop and indie new releases and the vinyl sounds way more dynamic. Now I appreciate this *subjective* difference means bugger all to anyone else but me. If non-linearity, distortion and euphonic colourations give the impression of greater dynamic range then to me, it's all gravy. I'm not going to sit in front of a another botched production CDrip and admire its technical superiority through gritted teeth. Modwright Transporter/SBT/SBR/Boom http://www.last.fm/user/browellm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105070 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
