There as been a lot of good discussion, and it appears there are more or less two "sides" here. Perhaps it would be a good idea for people to try to summarize the argument of the "opposing side", to see if the two groups really understand each other's positions. I've seen a bunch of good points made by proponents of either side, but there's a danger that they're being lost in the mailing list deluge. A concise list of of the pros and cons of the various courses of action might be a helpful tool, too -- editable by all on a wiki page, perhaps.
Just an idea :). Drew On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kristoffer Fossgård wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:52 AM, bardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Kristoffer Fossgård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Your all missing my point. I never said counting packages by >>>>> downloadrate is a perfect solution but that IT IS GOOD ENOUGH _and_ >>>>> BETTER THAN THE VOTE SYSTEM. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's what I thought. Even monitoring a single download mirror could >>>> be enough, if it's not an obscure and unpopular one. At least >>>> gathered data would be statistically *relevant*, even though not >>>> accurate. We can think of a single mirror as a good approximation of >>>> the whole community, excluding i18n/l10n packages, which are highly >>>> dependendt on the physical location of the mirror itself. >>>> >>> >>> Guys. I have to point out a flaw in this reasoning. We are talking >>> about packages _entering_ community. Not remaining there. For packages >>> not in community, there is no download except from the AUR website. We >>> *could* in theory, track this, but there's 3 or 4 different ways one >>> can download things from the AUR >>> >> >> There's one way technically. You download the tarball. Where are all the >> other ways? Even if there are why is this even relevant? It's not like >> a reasonably good-enough download counter is hard technically to >> accomplish(feel free to scold me if you think it is). >> >>> >>> Again, just downloading a package does not mean I like it or use it. >>> As someone previously stated: if you tell me you've never installed a >>> packaged, tried it, and removed it because you didn't like it, you're >>> probably lying. >>> >> >> Your still not getting it. The system doesn't have to be 100% perfect, >> it only has to offer a representation of which packages >> are "popular". that's it. we don't need to know how many "downloads" >> are really "conscientious" because the large majority of them will be. >> > > The two systems we already have "offer a representation of which packages > are popular" but there is much debate about how good that representation is. > A third is really not going to help.... > > Allan > > >
