On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Xyne <[email protected]> wrote: > Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > > > If I have understood your correctly, you want sage to provide python and > > all its other components as if they were vanilla? > > No... > > Peter Lewis wrote: > > > It may be that there are a few core components (however we define that) > like > > maxima or octave that can be "provided"... > > This is mostly what I had in mind. Even with modifications, some of the > component packages such as maxima or octave should fulfill most > dependencies of packages that require them and could thus be used > instead of the vanilla packages by users who require Sage. Even if it > only provides a few, it would still help offset the cost of installing > the package. > > I wrote 'to have the package "provide" as many of its components as > possible (if any)' *because* I doubt that most of them can be exposed. > > > > > > Loui Chang wrote: > > > It seems pretty ridiculous that they wouldn't have made provisions to > > use a system python rather than a bundled one. I maintain brlcad which > > bundles tcl/tk, boost, and a host of other libs but they have a proper > > build system which can check for and use system libs. Some of the libs > > are more obscure and probably should be bundled. I can imagine the same > > situation would occur with sage-mathematics. I'm left wondering why sage > > can't get their modifications incorporated upstream. > > > > I don't imagine using sage any time soon, but I can imagine users being > > a little peeved if they required virtually two installations of python - > > or any other major package. > > It *is* ridiculous. The upstream developers either think that "disk is > cheap" and don't care, or they think that Sage is the be-all-end-all > mathematics package and that no one would ever need any of the vanilla > components. > > That's just the way it is though and users of Sage know this. Aside > from incessantly nagging upstream, there is nothing that can be done > about it, which is why we're left with working around the duplication. > > > Regards, > Xyne >
If anyone has any other comments or pressing issues, please respond now. I will wait another day before moving it into community.
