Hey guys I'm sure you guys are cool and all but please STOP SENDING THOSE DARN NEWS LETTER! thank you
-------- Original Message -------- From: [email protected] Apparently from: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: aur-general Digest, Vol 115, Issue 14 Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 11:01:58 -0400 > Send aur-general mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aur-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by maintainer? (Xyne) > 2. Re: Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by maintainer? (Amish) > 3. Re: Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by maintainer? > (David J. Haines) > 4. Re: Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by maintainer? > (Florian Bruhin) > 5. Re: Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by maintainer? > (James Bulmer) > 6. Re: Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by maintainer? (Amish) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 14:19:46 +0000 > From: Xyne <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by > maintainer? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On 2014-05-08 14:10 +0000 > Xyne wrote: > > >To give another example, I have attached a very simple script > >that accepts a list of package names and prints out their last modification > >times in a sorted list. It depends on python3-aur. > > The attachments seems to have been stripped. You can find the script here: > > http://xyne.archlinux.ca/scripts/aur/list_aur_mtimes.py > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 20:06:15 +0530 > From: Amish <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by > maintainer? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > On 05/08/2014 07:40 PM, Xyne wrote: > > On 2014-05-08 10:50 +0530 > > Amish wrote: > >> > >> I added one line in package update Guidelines for Maintainer. > >> > >> Here is the link: > >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository#Maintaining_packages > >> > >> > >> Here is the line added: > >> > >> "After submitting the update, leave a comment on AUR page of the package > >> so users following the package get notified." > >> > > > > > > Please remove that. Commenting every single update will clutter up the > > comments > > page and make it harder to follow discussions. > > > I am ok with removing it. But I would like if more people give opinion. > > Because: > > 1) Its just a guideline, not every maintainer will follow it. > > 2) Maintainer can add one more point in guideline: to "delete" his older > update comment when new update is uploaded. > > 3) I think commenting about update will involve more people and bring > awareness that the AUR package is active and not orphaned. > > > Please think over point 2, If maintainer follows guideline and posts > update comment, he will also delete older update comment. > > If maintainer does not follow guideline, no need to delete anything either! > > Both ways, comment system will remain clean. > > Regards, > > Amish > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 10:42:31 -0400 > From: "David J. Haines" <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by > maintainer? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:06:15PM +0530, Amish wrote: > > > > > >On 05/08/2014 07:40 PM, Xyne wrote: > >>On 2014-05-08 10:50 +0530 > >>Amish wrote: > >>> > >>>I added one line in package update Guidelines for Maintainer. > >>> > >>>Here is the link: > >>>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository#Maintaining_packages > >>> > >>> > >>>Here is the line added: > >>> > >>>"After submitting the update, leave a comment on AUR page of the package > >>>so users following the package get notified." > >>> > > > > > >> > >>Please remove that. Commenting every single update will clutter up the > >>comments > >>page and make it harder to follow discussions. > > > > > >I am ok with removing it. But I would like if more people give opinion. > > > >Because: > > > >1) Its just a guideline, not every maintainer will follow it. > > > >2) Maintainer can add one more point in guideline: to "delete" his > >older update comment when new update is uploaded. > > > >3) I think commenting about update will involve more people and bring > >awareness that the AUR package is active and not orphaned. > > > > > >Please think over point 2, If maintainer follows guideline and posts > >update comment, he will also delete older update comment. > > > >If maintainer does not follow guideline, no need to delete anything either! > > > >Both ways, comment system will remain clean. > > > >Regards, > > > >Amish > > As a maintainer, I would never notify my packages' users. Why? Because > as a user, I would never want such notifications in the first place. All > it would do is clutter up my inbox and thus make me want to turn off > notifications for the package in question. Seeing as how useful > discussions actually occur in the AUR comments, I would prefer to keep > notifications active, but that wouldn't stop me if maintainers started > doing this. > > Essentially, this is the flip side of the highly-annoying "a new update > is available" comment, when the flag out-of-date link is right there. > -- > David J. Haines > [email protected] > 0xAFB3D16D - F929 270F B7C3 78AE A741 434F A7C6 F264 AFB3 D16C > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 16:48:48 +0200 > From: Florian Bruhin <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by > maintainer? > Message-ID: <20140508144848.GK6735@lupin> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > * Amish <[email protected]> [2014-05-08 20:06:15 +0530]: > > > > > > On 05/08/2014 07:40 PM, Xyne wrote: > > >On 2014-05-08 10:50 +0530 > > >Amish wrote: > > >> > > >>I added one line in package update Guidelines for Maintainer. > > >> > > >>Here is the link: > > >>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository#Maintaining_packages > > >> > > >> > > >>Here is the line added: > > >> > > >>"After submitting the update, leave a comment on AUR page of the package > > >>so users following the package get notified." > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Please remove that. Commenting every single update will clutter up the > > >comments > > >page and make it harder to follow discussions. > > > > > > I am ok with removing it. But I would like if more people give opinion. > > > > Because: > > > > 1) Its just a guideline, not every maintainer will follow it. > > > > 2) Maintainer can add one more point in guideline: to "delete" his older > > update comment when new update is uploaded. > > > > 3) I think commenting about update will involve more people and bring > > awareness that the AUR package is active and not orphaned. > > > > > > Please think over point 2, If maintainer follows guideline and posts update > > comment, he will also delete older update comment. > > > > If maintainer does not follow guideline, no need to delete anything either! > > > > Both ways, comment system will remain clean. > > > > Regards, > > > > Amish > > As both a maintainer and user of quite a few AUR packages: I'll get > annoyed and unsubscribe from notifications for all the packages I use > which do this, and I'll certainly not do it myself. > > There *are* already a lot of tools which allow you to opt-in to update > notifications, why don't you simply use these? > > With your guideline change, you're forcing everyone to get update > notifications > even if they aren't interested. > > For me, seeing the updates in my AUR helper is more than enough, I don't want > an email on every update, but I want mails on comments. > > Florian > > -- > () ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail www.asciiribbon.org > /\ www.the-compiler.org | I love long mails http://email.is-not-s.ms/ > Schmidt's Observation: All things being equal, a fat person uses more soap > than a thin person. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 836 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/attachments/20140508/2a4425be/attachment-0001.asc> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 15:52:10 +0100 > From: James Bulmer <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by > maintainer? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > If we ever have a proper notifocation system inbuilt, I hope it will > be optional per user because I don't want to be flooded with emails > about package updates. Seeing them in my AUR helper before updating is > also enough for me > > - -- nekinie > > On 08/05/14 15:48, Florian Bruhin wrote: > > * Amish <[email protected]> [2014-05-08 20:06:15 +0530]: > >> > >> > >> On 05/08/2014 07:40 PM, Xyne wrote: > >>> On 2014-05-08 10:50 +0530 Amish wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I added one line in package update Guidelines for > >>>> Maintainer. > >>>> > >>>> Here is the link: > >>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository#Maintaining_packages > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Here is the line added: > >>>> > >>>> "After submitting the update, leave a comment on AUR page of > >>>> the package so users following the package get notified." > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Please remove that. Commenting every single update will clutter > >>> up the comments page and make it harder to follow discussions. > >> > >> > >> I am ok with removing it. But I would like if more people give > >> opinion. > >> > >> Because: > >> > >> 1) Its just a guideline, not every maintainer will follow it. > >> > >> 2) Maintainer can add one more point in guideline: to "delete" > >> his older update comment when new update is uploaded. > >> > >> 3) I think commenting about update will involve more people and > >> bring awareness that the AUR package is active and not orphaned. > >> > >> > >> Please think over point 2, If maintainer follows guideline and > >> posts update comment, he will also delete older update comment. > >> > >> If maintainer does not follow guideline, no need to delete > >> anything either! > >> > >> Both ways, comment system will remain clean. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Amish > > > > As both a maintainer and user of quite a few AUR packages: I'll > > get annoyed and unsubscribe from notifications for all the packages > > I use which do this, and I'll certainly not do it myself. > > > > There *are* already a lot of tools which allow you to opt-in to > > update notifications, why don't you simply use these? > > > > With your guideline change, you're forcing everyone to get update > > notifications even if they aren't interested. > > > > For me, seeing the updates in my AUR helper is more than enough, I > > don't want an email on every update, but I want mails on comments. > > > > Florian > > > > - -- > > regards, > James Bulmer > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTa5oaAAoJEEaOSVAnZGA3HKYQAJiLB4yOlUV5uTrJ3KqMf7sn > s1zKd54LujYhXus7geDreXGAWrOJwtxPMUV75A0ZjikLYKTmPeTLQge2ylMJ3BlV > l6w+xiRsX9HR9RxOlr2nLXTaAa4dBgdDNoPH2iIkGfegDRpqQnDPoNE520jNJ/a3 > b0uFMFSVlUWaLMe0mIdgR6KLom+7HvLRAOa+ei3e7KV8oGesO7dWw/ptYC4aPGYT > 3t6ltMt4lkMweabH0yrH+a0C/BntpPkT2reuKDPuSG4ND666SBTwUt4r6trafUBz > nYxZiekLc3+1vnkY3F5g5GVJyIj4Qx6yg6zqyKsoXM7tqrLVHVP9t3zCrJYPBo/K > F6r+vPpUovt5zl8WmcgUQX/fIWOdKnQMyLVjaFNNcvXTBLM6JulhCMANpmCsBsBa > owu2QrMOniB5Qh/fJvQqhskXKG2m5kXPySVlyb1waRPg1NZJMNFv0RASjkpOrar9 > CNTNzeri9yHxhP/6bwMLx8bpFP1+vgLDQeYwbQ/ZM8F21zAiGKp8dwnzmxH3yaWj > VQN8Viie/HQpaVjczg8Goxk84Rw2QhIIBsUFlOtOwwqtoPMkDZcA2gg+MRlHoquO > BjvQRwcgEk2gblFbHPBx9+NJymyxKfmAYcW8m/jaw7PQDLH7WQyXiFa3YW8Kbx0l > 8zCpDCc0Y08NxCWXsx+X > =lkR6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 20:31:51 +0530 > From: Amish <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notify by e-mail when PKGBUILD updated by > maintainer? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > On 05/08/2014 08:22 PM, James Bulmer wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > If we ever have a proper notifocation system inbuilt, I hope it will > > be optional per user because I don't want to be flooded with emails > > about package updates. Seeing them in my AUR helper before updating is > > also enough for me > > > > - -- nekinie > > > With many people saying NO, I have removed it! > > :) > > Amish. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > aur-general mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > > > ------------------------------ > > End of aur-general Digest, Vol 115, Issue 14 > ********************************************
