On 09/16/17 at 08:19pm, brent s. wrote: > On 09/16/2017 07:52 PM, David Phillips wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 02:19:09PM +0200, LoneVVolf wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I do have the impression that the number of aur comments about pacakges not > >> building unless foo is installed has gone up. > >> Very often foo turns out to be part of base-devel or multilib-devel. > >> > >> Answering that is easy, by linking to main AUR wiki page that clearly > >> states > >> base-devel is assumed to be installed when building aur packages. > >> That part appears to be overlooked often though and results in unnecessary > >> clutter in aur comments. > >> > >> Perhaps we could put base-devel group in makedepends of aur pacakages ? > >> Lib32-* / multilib packages could list both multilib-devel and base-devel. > >> > >> Lone_Wolf > > > > I can see where you're coming from. > > > > I have to be stubborn. Arch assumes some sort of sensible working brain > > of its users. Users building software that haven't installed things for > > building software… it makes me concerned for the community. > > > > David > > > > > At the risk of coming off as a little BOFH-y, I've been in this > situation before (where some users CBA to read[0]) and it makes me want > to write something that will: > > 1.) check the comments sections for new comments on my packages, > 2.) parse those comments for pasted error messages that would be caused > by not-installed (base|multilib)-devel > 3.) follow to the comment author's AUR profile, and grab contact info > from their email address/PGP key FPR/IRC nick/whichever it finds, and > 4.) emails/PMs them a link to [0]. > > Now, I don't see a Terms of Service for the AUR, but if there's demand > for this from other AUR package maintainers and nobody sees any obvious > ethical flaws with this, I'd be glad to make this my next project and > share with other maintainers. > > We can automate everything else, why shouldn't we automate RTFMs?
I sincerely don't believe that this will have the right affect, it will be treated as spam. Maybe we should start advocating to use extra-$arch-build for building AUR packages, since that contains base-devel :-). This is probably also what Debian does I guess or does every package implictly depend on 'build-essential'. -- Jelle van der Waa
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